Solo queqe vayne

Bârd·Sep 10, 2015·1 votes·280 views

Just...

stop

If you don't play ADC, VAYNE IS NOT THE CHAMPION FOR YOU TO DEFAULT TO IN SOLO QUEUE.

The G&B boards may have idiots who say "Oh, she is easy" and "So strong at all phases in the game due to her immense mobility and safety", but NO.

NO NO NO

If I see one more player take W at level 1, If I see one more try and solo baron because "Hey man, %HP damagez man", If I see one more attempted level 2 all in versus , If I see one more Tumble into a hook (which is apparenly my fault),

I am going to have a nervous breakdown.

8 Comments

GodarenSep 10, 20151 votes

Doesn't it make sense to default to the strongest adc if you don't adc tho? I see a lot of trash vayne's but once they get 3 item's i would much rather have them then a trash any other adc.

BârdSep 10, 20152 votes

Vayne is NOT the strongest ADC. That would be Mordekaiser , followed by Sivir Corki Jinx Tristana Ashe KogMaw (In no particular order). Vayne does not show up on that list because her early game is absolute trash, she is even more vulnerable than Draven , and she cannot burst. If Vayne gets fed early, it is because someone royally fucked up. If a fed vayne 1v5's your team, that is not Vayne being op, that is YOU forgetting to upgrade your fucking trinket versus a fed vayne AND missing your CC.

Vayne is strong in solo queqe, but only if you know her. She scales in power as you gain skill with the champion.

Instalocking Vayne in solo queqe when you dont know what you are doing is potentially worse than a first time Bard .

GodarenSep 11, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=The True Bard,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jv4L9hFJ,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2015-09-10T23:01:24.790+0000)

Vayne is NOT the strongest ADC. That would be , followed by (In no particular order). Vayne does not show up on that list because her early game is absolute trash, she is even more vulnerable than , and she cannot burst. If Vayne gets fed early, it is because someone royally fucked up. If a fed vayne 1v5's your team, that is not Vayne being op, that is YOU forgetting to upgrade your fucking trinket versus a fed vayne AND missing your CC.

Vayne is strong in solo queqe, but only if you know her. She scales in power as you gain skill with the champion.

Instalocking in solo queqe when you dont know what you are doing is potentially worse than a first time .

vayne has a the highest pick rate and a good win rate. morde isn't really an adc he is just someone riot overtuned to much and now is op. Corki is not top tier and neither is kog because he requires peel something solo q has none of. And just so you know vayne is one of my mains doesn't really matter how bad you are with her when you get to 3-4 items and can kill most champs with 3 autos.

BârdSep 11, 20152 votes

Vayne has the highest pick rate because she is FUN.

She has an above average winrate, yes but even in plat+ it is only 52.14%.

For perspective, sona, who has been nerfed into near unplayability, is sitting at 52.78%

GodarenSep 11, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=The True Bard,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jv4L9hFJ,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2015-09-11T00:11:10.053+0000)

Vayne has the highest pick rate because she is FUN.

She has an above average winrate, yes but even in plat+ it is only 52.14%.

For perspective, sona, who has been nerfed into near unplayability, is sitting at 52.78%

she isn't that fun I have more fun playing jinx or trist but vayne is just stronger you can feel it

BârdSep 11, 20151 votes

Not really. It feels like it, but it isn't.

AOE empowered crits, great tower pushing, a global rocket, and long range pick potential with the Tazer on Jinx

Instant tower crushing, a massive attack speed steroid, a jump with resets, and a massive AOE knockback on Trist.

In comparison, Vayne has much better single target damage and outplay potential than either, but lacks some important things, like self peel for multiple targets (even jinx has her E), tower pushing (Bork and bolts do not work on stone besides malphite), reliable escapes (Q will let you dodge things, yeah, but it will not be enough to get you away from a rampaging Skarner if), and (perhaps most importantly) BURST.

She has one damaging spell, and besides that, she is a ball of stats and steroids.

You know, the kind of ball that turns invisible if the enemy doesn't spend 250 gold.

She is strong. Very strong. But not overpowered.

GodarenSep 11, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=The True Bard,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jv4L9hFJ,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-09-11T04:59:36.801+0000)

Not really. It feels like it, but it isn't.

AOE empowered crits, great tower pushing, a global rocket, and long range pick potential with the Tazer on Jinx

Instant tower crushing, a massive attack speed steroid, a jump with resets, and a massive AOE knockback on Trist.

In comparison, Vayne has much better single target damage and outplay potential than either, but lacks some important things, like self peel for multiple targets (even jinx has her E), tower pushing (Bork and bolts do not work on stone besides malphite), reliable escapes (Q will let you dodge things, yeah, but it will not be enough to get you away from a rampaging Skarner if), and (perhaps most importantly) BURST.

She has one damaging spell, and besides that, she is a ball of stats and steroids.

You know, the kind of ball that turns invisible if the enemy doesn't spend 250 gold.

She is strong. Very strong. But not overpowered.

don't think champs get to be the most played champ in the game if they aren't op Vayne's peel is much better then jinx's and trist can't really kill tanks. I pick jinx when the enemy team doesn't have many threats but if they have vi or a zed Vayne is better by fair