So back in the day, Riot avoided abilities with the potential to screw over allies

BobaFlautist··1 votes·276 views

The rational being that what with the highly toxic playerbase and limited enforcement of the Summoner's code, it was best not to tempt people.

It's now 2018, and Anivia Bard JarvanIV Kalista TahmKench Taliyah and even Trundle can all cc allies to a greater or lesser extent - Hell, it's season 8, I remember some time in like season 4 or 5 when an allied Trundle got 40% CDR and followed me around, pillaring me every time I tried to recall and interrupting the channel. The new rational is that if people are gonna try to troll their allies, they'll find a way, troll, and get banned. How they choose to ruin games is almost irrelevant.

All that being said, I remember that consideration was given to allowing Lissandra ult to target allies - that was the original design intent - but it was eventually removed due to the high trolling potential. Considering the weak spot Liss is in, and the relative simplicity of her kit, I think it's worth reconsidering.

It could allow her to play as more of a supportive champion with a bit more unique strength, rather than just being "Lower range Ziggs with slightly more cc and way more mana issues, goes top and makes bruisers cry."

Disclaimer: I've never played Lissandra before, and I hate playing against her.

8 Comments

Tèrminus3 votes

I like how you say "back in the day Riot avoided this", and then cite Anivia, who's been around for almost 9 years.

BobaFlautist1 votes

Well yeah, for the longest time the ability of terrain to cc allies (and even enemies) was treated as a bug or a niche side-effect, now it's considered working-as-intended for terrain spawned near champions to cause a small "airborne" affect and subsequent interrupt.

It's also more ubiquitous, and the new examples are stronger examples anyway.

ZephyrDrake1 votes

so you have never played a champion and hate playing against a champion and somehow think you are qualify to talk about balance?

BobaFlautist1 votes

No, not really. That's why I included that disclaimer. I have no idea where this would leave Liss balance-wise, I just think it would make the champion more interesting.

Kai Guy1 votes

You missed Blitzcrank who has been a troll option to bring Tanks or threats to his Adcs and then walk off with out using E or R. As well as Kindred Trolls using R.

BobaFlautist1 votes

Well yeah, but those don't directly cc your allies. It's been a pretty fine line though, I'll grant you that.

Kai Guy1 votes

Just wanted to point out there is more then terrain generation or displacement that can screw allies over.

Salron1 votes

Anivia JarvanIV Trundle have all existed since season 1 or earlier And Tahm can't interrupt recalls with his W

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