One day after the rework, Kayle already needs a nerf.

Scottsc20·3/8/2019, 1:27:00 AM·14 votes·4,867 views

Like seriously, what the fuck is this champion? I just played against a Kayle that started 0/3, built full damage, and ten minutes later, could literally flash into our team and kill our adc and mid laner within 1.5 seconds. What the fuck, Riot? No champion should be able to start off this badly and still do this much AoE damage while still being a great split pusher. This is Akali/Irelia/Aatrox all over again. Rarely played before rework, broken as all hell for the next few months until Riot nerfs them so hard they are no longer playable. When are we going to break this vicious cycle?

16 Comments

FOR JUSTICE3/8/2019, 1:31:45 AM11 votes

this is the story of every scaling champion in the game though-

no matter how hard they feed once they get a few items from a few lucky shutdowns they can just kill everything, this isnt kayle specific tbh.

KweiLi3/11/2019, 3:43:28 PM3 votes

Compared to Yi, Jax, this type of late champion. Kayle's ult is just... way too strong...

xDogMeatx3/8/2019, 2:07:40 AM2 votes

end her before 11 thats my rule if not that then end before 16 or else she auto wins 2v1 no CC trades. AKA kog maw or sylas vayne (late game champ rules) fun fact end game kayle dps wise beats kog maw.

Its All Skillzz3/11/2019, 3:48:53 PM2 votes

This is true for every late game champ. Made yasuo go 0-6--0 with 20 cs. He finished a zeal and pressed W in team fights with the help from a alister combo to get off R an ends game like 15-19 and being a huge threat.

Her Kitty3/8/2019, 1:32:29 AM2 votes

shes not doing well and losing more games her early game is so bad shes countered by literally everyone

Wan Trijk3/23/2019, 9:25:47 PM2 votes

Thats so damn right, I played a game against her on lane with my yas smurf, and I just got 4/11 by her being kayle, her damage is seriously insane. But I guess thats what many people hate league rn because riot is taking so long with nerfs that are just necessary

8OO 273 82553/26/2019, 5:20:15 AM2 votes

Dont even want to play this game since her rework or if shes in the game.

There's 0 reasons to have melee go into range and gain additional AOE splash. Seen multiple games where the winning team then switched to immediately lose after kayle gets 2 items or shes un-killable after lv16. Pair this champ with a fed yasuo or yi, and the rest of your teammates you're working with literally have 0 idea who to engage first because both champs will kill your entire team in 2 seconds anyways.

Please reset all data points for champs back to 0 and start from a fresh slate of numbers because this champ is beyond meta.

An Angry Kayle3/16/2019, 12:12:07 PM1 votes

I guess we'll pretend that this rework is not a straight downgrade in every way except two. First, her heal gives at around 300 AP which was normal for old and new kayle alike, the new heal gives about 10% more movespeed, even though its a shorter duration, it will still take you further than than the pre rework movespeed would have. Secondly is her ability to kill tanks, which is stronger post 16, because of the true damage. Her new Q deals 10 less base damage, and scales 10% less with ap, and is a skillshot, W is a fat solo heal nerf at level 18 with 300 ap, its around a 200 heal nerf.

E does the same damage it used to while turned one, once you get waves and max it out, but it scales with 10% more ap than it used to (this is the part where you say "AH ha! i knew it, absolutely broken") except the part where i cant auto during the Q cast time, which while admittedly you couldnt cast during old q, it cancelled a single auto, not 3-4.

You also cant auto during the W, which you could with old but maybe that was op? who can say, since apparently old kayle "sucked"

E, the new execute is admittedly, very nice however, once again, it cancels atleast 2 autos, if not 3, during the cast time, and is only quite good at later levels where you can burst squishies extremely fast, or against tanks The ulti. where do i even begin. its a giant gimmick. against melee its insanely powerful, against ranged, its literally useless unless i have flash, or they're mindlessly running into my toes. did i also mention, that ONCE AGAIN. i can't attack for around 1.5/2s during the cast, which RIOT i dont think i can possibly convey how bad that feels. I certainly never asked for an ulti that does damage but locks me out of everything. did i say everything? i meant LITERALLY EVERYTHING. you cant zhonyas (to my knowledge. havent actually tried), gunblade, auto, cast any other ability, including being unable to turn e on even though its a passive auto enhancer like nasus q, im literally just stuck running at you, and hoping i can run at you faster than you can run away. old kayle literally wouldve done the same amount of damage through autos that her ulti does currently, so take that for what its worth.

Scottsc203/27/2019, 11:03:43 PM1 votes

Haha, I just noticed that Riot buffed Kayle this last patch. Yep. They buffed a champ that already had the highest win rate in top lane. Get me out.