Why do assassins have some combination of wave clear, hypermobility and hard cc?

Kelg··3 votes·1,363 views

Back in the golden days of league the counter to assassins was to shove them in, but now they all have great wave clear and some have hard CC to go with it, and to top it all off, most of them have hypermobility to make them ungankable in lane, so they can just shove you all they please. It seems like it goes against the fundamentals of this game... Why would you pick a tank or a bruiser if you could just delete someone and CC people when you need to?

Khazix evolved spikes are basically an aoe snare, Hyper mobile with jump resets Leblanc W waveclear and Chain hard CC, Instaburst, hyper mobile Akali can clear waves pretty fast, hyper mobile, getoutofjailfree-smoke Zed Super Wave clear, Hyper mobile Ahri Charm CC, wave clear, sustain, Hyper mobility, aids incarnate Ekko Hard CC, shields, wave clear, mobility, healing... Good thing he's gutted right now because this is probably the single most overloaded champ in the game Rengar hard cc, stealth, instaburst Shaco Hard CC, hypermobile LeeSin Uh yeah, CC, Mobility, wave clear, sustain, shields Kassadin Hyper mobile, wave clear, becomes the best ap bruiser with fleet while still being an assassin...

These champs are so overloaded at this point that things like glacial Ahri are becoming the norm. I honestly don't get the boner people have over assassins... How is being instantly deleted by a hyper mobile champ fun gameplay? It's just League of duty.

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Moody P7 votes

zed and shaco aren't hypermobile lmao

Kelg1 votes

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zed and shaco aren't hypermobile lmao

yeah being able to warp around bewtween 2 spot isnt hyper mobile, and neither is a 6 second flash with stealth attached

LTK KoRo2 votes

6 seconds cd, lol, this is funny. You realize it's 14 secs at rank 5?

Most of your statements are wrong anyway.

But trying to argue with assassins haters is pointless anyway.

Also, in your opinion assassins shouldn't be allowed to have any kind of gapclosers, waveclear, stealth and burst damage, they just should be like target dummies but with 1k hp and 30 of each resist.

L Psy Kongroo1 votes

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6 seconds cd, lol, this is funny. You realize it's 14 secs at rank 5?

Pretty sure he's talking about Shaco with max CDR there (since his usual build involves getting it). But even still, a single 6.6 CD blink hardly qualifies as "hyper-mobile". You've got to have either a resetting dash or multiple dashes to qualify as "hyper-mobile" IMO.

LTK KoRo1 votes

Also the CD comes after Shaco breaks the invis. So when Shaco actually uses his Q to escape (without breaking stealth) CD goes from 6.6 secs after casting to +10.

But yes, there's no world in which Shaco is hypermobile, where Zed have super waveclear or Lee have decent waveclear

Hayaishi23 votes

Gotta sell skins somehow.

The Beholder3 votes

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Back in the golden days of league the counter to assassins was to shove them in, but now they all have great wave clear and some have hard CC to go with it, and to top it all off, most of them have hypermobility to make them ungankable in lane, so they can just shove you all they please. It seems like it goes against the fundamentals of this game... Why would you pick a tank or a bruiser if you could just delete someone and CC people when you need to?

Khazix evolved spikes are basically an aoe snare, Hyper mobile with jump resets

Ok ok, no, evolved spikes are nowhere near an aoe snare. Its just a slow.

Leblanc W waveclear and Chain hard CC, Instaburst, hyper mobile

I agree here. I hate LB.

Akali can clear waves pretty fast, hyper mobile, getoutofjailfree-smoke

Smoke is cancer, but besides that I prefer this iteration over the old one

Zed Super Wave clear, Hyper mobile Ahri Charm CC, wave clear, sustain, Hyper mobility, aids incarnate Ekko Hard CC, shields, wave clear, mobility, healing... Good thing he's gutted right now because this is probably the single most overloaded champ in the game

You fail to mention how telegraphed his whole kit is. His w l, the only form of hard cc he has is very tough to land, his ult has a “I will appear here” signal constantly, and his Q is quite easy to avoid.

Rengar hard cc, stealth, instaburst Shaco Hard CC, hypermobile

Useless in teamfights, more useless then most assassins

LeeSin Uh yeah, CC, Mobility, wave clear, sustain, shields Kassadin Hyper mobile, wave clear, becomes the best ap bruiser with fleet while still being an assassin...

These champs are so overloaded at this point that things like glacial Ahri are becoming the norm. I honestly don't get the boner people have over assassins... How is being instantly deleted by a hyper mobile champ fun gameplay? It's just League of duty.

Well, for the people playing assassins its fun I guess, and they kepe playing for they keep paying

Phieldworker3 votes

sounds like you need to learn to play against assassins.

2Charmnot2Charm1 votes

Ahri Hyper mobility

For a 10 second window every 130-60 seconds (depending on rank) lmao.

You want to see a truly hyper mobile champ? Play vs Camille who has triple the range of anyone's dash/flash on an 6 second cooldown andIrelia who can 1 shot minions after getting parts of item 3078

And don't give me "but irelia is restricted to minions" excuse when the majority of our time spent playing this game is near by minions in the first place.

Oh wait I almost forgot any top lane fighters can do that after buying this item 3508 : ) , better hope someone doesn't get so far ahead that they can get away with using this item.

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