Mordekaiser has fallen from OP.gg due to lack of play. Can Mordekaiser get some QoL power shifts?

Kelg··64 votes·19,546 views

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Nobody plays him anymore because he's awful top lane, mediocre as an ADC and hit or miss at mid. He was supposed to be a top laner, but as of now he can't even out trade meta toplaners despite being one of the most immobile champs in the game. There was a point in his life were he countered almost every assassin(old morde at least), but the damage has become so high now that these champs can just burst Morde down before he can do anything.

His base health at 18 is 1856. For a juggernaut, that is absolutely laughable when Darius has 2200~ and even some champs like Fizz have 2200~ base health at 18 while being mobile and bursty. Jhin, a ADC, has 2103 hp and outdamages Morde's whole rotation late by right clicking a couple times from a super far range.

Morde's rework was supposed to make him an ADC replacement somehow, but he falls off after 20-25 minutes harder than almost any champion out there due to his lack of tankiness and immobility. You can argue that he's an "earlygame ADC" but his early is actually crap and he shines the most at mid when fed, which wont matter at all if you lose lane or go even.

He needs some changes. Yeah, I get it, not many people play Mordekaiser, but some minor changes to make him more fun would be nice for those of us that do while we wait for his VGU.

166 Comments

Shoskavitch20 votes

I remember when Morde was a problem. Yet another case of "Let's nerf a champ into the ground instead of just making small adjustments to him."

Madsin254 votes

Dude....they have literally not touched morde at all.

Aatrox Eichmann5 votes

he may be untouched since then but it was the items and masteries that made him powerful.

SpecterVonBaren9 votes

Oh bull shit. Did you even play during the Juggernaut patch?

SpecterVonBaren2 votes

Another case of, "I'm going to ignore all the small changes they made before that to suit my own needs".

Mordepool13 votes

Riot. Won't invest resources into Mordekaiser. Meddler hates Morde mains and would rather not open a can of worms. That's where we have been sitting for years.

They put him on the Tier 1 list of Reworks as an excuse to not do any work on him.

Not that, that stopped Riot from doing changes on Akali.

OnlyVelKozOnly2 votes

Awful changes on Akali that make playing against her SUPER unfun.

Shuriman Curator11 votes

Kinda sucks to be honest, btw whatever happened to Malicious Metal anyways? Seems that he just disappeared...

TheFancySkeleton2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Shuriman Curator,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9E62bqtY,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2018-08-07T01:59:12.369+0000)

Kinda sucks to be honest, btw whatever happened to Malicious Metal anyways? Seems that he just disappeared...

Now that you mention it, it has been a while. Where's he now?

Shuriman Curator8 votes

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Now that you mention it, it has been a while. Where's he now?

That's what I'm saying haha, I use to see him frequently post and create topics on mordekaiser. Wasn't there another guy named Rubick? He kinda just vanished as well, I remember he talked a lot about juggernauts.

I just see a bunch of Colton and fizz v2 posts get downvoted to hell lmfao

saltran2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Shuriman Curator,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9E62bqtY,comment-id=000800000000,timestamp=2018-08-07T06:46:33.754+0000)

That's what I'm saying haha, I use to see him frequently post and create topics on mordekaiser. Wasn't there another guy named Rubick? He kinda just vanished as well, I remember he talked a lot about juggernauts.

I just see a bunch of Colton and fizz v2 posts get downvoted to hell lmfao

The Rubick one is still here, trust me wink wink.

TheFancySkeleton2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Shuriman Curator,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9E62bqtY,comment-id=000800000000,timestamp=2018-08-07T06:46:33.754+0000)

That's what I'm saying haha, I use to see him frequently post and create topics on mordekaiser. Wasn't there another guy named Rubick? He kinda just vanished as well, I remember he talked a lot about juggernauts.

I just see a bunch of Colton and fizz v2 posts get downvoted to hell lmfao

Well, he's back!

Teridax683 votes

He doesn't post as often, but he still posts from time to time. He also made quite a few threads in the past expressing major disappointment towards Riot, especially regarding the way they treated Morde, so it's likely he's either given up, or is simply taking a step back until Morde's VGU is closer on the horizon.

Slythrin Umbreon9 votes

I will forever sympathize with mains who have been screwed over by Riot. Karma Skarner Nautilus Ornn Sejuani item 3174

ValiantKiller3 votes

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I will forever sympathize with mains who have been screwed over by Riot. Karma Skarner Nautilus Ornn Sejuani item 3174

MonkeyKing Volibear was throw for while as well and voli moving toward that slowly. Olaf and Nunu atleast getting reworked.

Frostfel7 votes

None of these champions are actually super horrible the way Morde is. Yeah they may not be meta, but they can still be strong. Voli for example is really boring/linear gameplay but he works for what he is supposed to be, a ganking tank.

JAYCCCCCCCCCCCCE2 votes

I havent seen an Ornn in ages, forgot he even existed in the game lol

LordGeovanni2 votes

Sejuani Here have a 2 second massive stat boost with no way to refresh it as a tank in combat. Its stupid that tanks (and fighters) have to wait until out of combat to get their effects. item 3102 (was a tank item when they changed it to having damage interupt the spell shield refresh) item 3083 Sejuani Ornn TahmKench

Khristophoros7 votes

Give him a stun. For his entire existence he's been forced to have a terrible kit because "not having CC or mobility is his identity" why does it have to be that way? Just let him have something in his kit that makes him worthwhile besides damage numbers.

Kelg3 votes

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Give him a stun. For his entire existence he's been forced to have a terrible kit because "not having CC or mobility is his identity" why does it have to be that way? Just let him have something in his kit that makes him worthwhile besides damage numbers.

If he had a stun it would have to be on his 3rd Q. Or they could just do a small slow on his E. Anything would do at this point.

Khristophoros3 votes

Yeah I was thinking Q3

GigglesO1 votes

If you get 3rd Q they should be dead... not sure how it would help. They would just make another excuse about it to give even shittier base stats...

Khristophoros2 votes

You'd have the option of peeling a tanky fucker off your backline instead of being forced to attempt a dive every teamfight as a fucking immobile melee mage or w/e the fuck he's supposed to be. You'd still have the option of diving too. It would just open up more options.

GigglesO1 votes

I’m still not sure how that would help, the tanky fucker should be dealing that kind of damage... you should still have a support as well. Peeling is not Morse’s job, and 1 CC unless it was overloaded 3 seconds is not going to let that happen.

Khristophoros2 votes

Almost every champ in the game has some CC which means they can peel and sometimes that's really handy, like if you end up in a 2v2 or something. Either that or you have really good mobility for target access. Morde has neither.

3TWarrior2 votes

actually, his existence as a damage carry used to be his thing and worked EXTREMELY well, unfair for the opponent in fact

the problem though, after they reworked him, mordekaiser now has no tools for proper trading in lane

mordekaiser's old existence was literally to CRUSH his laning opponent and be a force to be reckoned with afterward...if he ever got to the battlefield

Fluffeh6 votes

No, no. Clearly ezreal needs the update! He has ONE ability that doesnt feel that rewarding and worst of all the poor baby has some stiff animations, we couldnt let him suffer any longer.

Scorpio Szn5 votes

Morde needs a full scale rework so badly. Such an iconic thematic (The FIRST Undead) being wasted on some bullshit.

Choa Best Girl 4 votes

I main Mord, prob even OTP on another account since they gutted Singed. Mord is amazing when facing inexperienced players, the thing is that he is so freaking slow and has no cc and all his skills need to be in close range.

Buff his movespeed

Kelg4 votes

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I main Mord, prob even OTP on another account since they gutted Singed. Mord is amazing when facing inexperienced players, the thing is that he is so freaking slow and has no cc and all his skills need to be in close range.

Buff his movespeed

With how he's designed, you have to wait until the enemy outplays themself. Unfortunately this doesn't happen often after you climb past a certain rank.

KlydeFrog1 votes

No its called max w against a poke person mage teemo. Max w first agaisnt someone you feel is going to be agressive and max q first if you want to be agressive. This is how its done

Kelg3 votes

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No its called max w against a poke person mage teemo. Max w first agaisnt someone you feel is going to be agressive and max q first if you want to be agressive. This is how its done

I main Morde. I know how to play him. Teemo is no where close to meta and is a borderline troll pick. Try fighting an actual meta toplaner like Camille Jax orAatrox as Morde.

KlydeFrog1 votes

Again lol how i do it works

Death Rex4 votes

Reav3 said that he would be surprised if Mordekaiser doesn't get reworked in 2019. There, you now know that. Use this knowledge as you want.

Kelg7 votes

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Reav3 said that he would be surprised if Mordekaiser doesn't get reworked in 2019. There, you now know that. Use this knowledge as you want.

He basically said that last year, and the year before as well. Until his VGU is actually announced, I'm assuming he's not getting one.

Oleandervine2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Death Rex,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9E62bqtY,comment-id=0017,timestamp=2018-08-07T09:15:00.973+0000)

Reav3 said that he would be surprised if Mordekaiser doesn't get reworked in 2019. There, you now know that. Use this knowledge as you want.

There's some weight to this. He said in 2016 that he'd be surprised if Evelynn wasn't reworked in 2017. And lo and behold, she was VGU'd in 2017.

SwiftKitten882 votes

https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/mordekaiser/platinum

oh noes.. in such bad shape

only 50%+ in every single elo... [zombie-brand-facepalm]

FyreWall24 votes

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https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/mordekaiser/platinum

oh noes.. in such bad shape

only 50%+ in every single elo... [zombie-brand-facepalm]

He has a 1% popularity rate. And that's only in plat+ it takes me.10 wins in a row and I'll boost his wr by 5%

SwiftKitten881 votes

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He has a 1% popularity rate. And that's only in plat+ it takes me.10 wins in a row and I'll boost his wr by 5%

"only in plat +?

did u even LOOK at the link i just have you...OR read my post

the link and my post clealy shows every elo above 50% and plat+ at 52%

also yes he has a low playrate... ok whats your point? he also is rank 16 out of all the champion in terms of winrate in plat + and 66th overall with over HALF the champions in the game in a worse spot

even in his worst elo.

if riot was going to buff somone they should buff the 4 champs below 46% winrate... not the guys at 52% in every elo.

and seroiuly do u people actaully WANT raiot to touch your champion?

do u not even REMEMBER what they did the LAST time you asked for them to touch him? remember how much u all LOVED that change [sg-miss-fortune]

Mordekaiser is in a perfectly fine spot.

he is good viable champion in every elo... and not overbearing or broken in any elo.

WHAT ELSE DO U WANT?

Kelg14 votes

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Mordekaiser is in a perfectly fine spot.

Spoken like someone who has obviously never played Morde before. He feels fucking awful to play and his kit is a mess. Besides, if you could read, I'm not really asking for direct buffs, I'm asking for powershifts to make him less team reliant. [sg-lulu]

HeimerLmao8 votes

And bugfixes. I would love to be able to use protobelt.

Beast Brawler4 votes

And not have my third Q canceled because my W's life steal activated and it cancels the effect, causing me to lose the skirmish top and then lose the whole game. No, this is not an exaggeration, yes it has happened before. Could I have played better to counteract this? I don't really think so. Ignite/Electrocute Renekton is a mean sonuvabitch.

GigglesO4 votes

Played with him with friends in all for one. The commentary by my friend that started in beta.

I would love not to be outwalked by every single champion that has the ability to walk. I guess he needs rylis to function. Why does he have such shitty MS while having no mobility?

Wow his base stats are awful why is he so squishy.

It feels like we’re playing the worst champion in the game how are we not feeding more?

Upon getting dragon ghost+ two enemy ghosts. Wtf why are we suddenly just winning for no reason, I’d like to atleast know why I can suddenly win fights for doing nothing different.

My reply “that’s because we got charizard so then we got two really fed ghosts, it’s normal to feed until you get a really fed ghost”

So that’s your secret to getting diamond, you get to control two champions, one has really bad AI and the other one is controlled by the computer, since it doesn’t let you control the ghost anyways...

How did I auto attack while CC’d lol morde bugs are hilarious...

^^^ btw his bugs are so bad there is one that if you have W activated sometimes you can attack through things like lulu polymorph...

Watch924 votes

I think he means that Mordes low playrate is inflating his high winrate.

GigglesO3 votes

Bingo! Happens whenever a champion is only played by mains and OTPs

HeimerLmao5 votes

bUT MoRDeKAiSer hSa A 50% PerNCeT WiNRAtE! WhAt dO yOU MeaN?

Meserion2 votes

Mordekaiser is currently a skill check champion, hes weak early on but the moment you complete item 3146 he gets a massive powerspike that enables him to 2v1 other champions in certain scenarios. As it stands, before this powerspike hes mediocre at best and very susceptible to early game poke, which seems to be the current meta. If the damage wasn't so high from all this extra stuff: runes, items, and summoner spells, then maybe Mordekaiser would be more effective in general.

Kelg4 votes

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Mordekaiser is currently a skill check champion, hes weak early on but the moment you complete item 3146 he gets a massive powerspike that enables him to 2v1 other champions in certain scenarios. As it stands, before this powerspike hes mediocre at best and very susceptible to early game poke, which seems to be the current meta. If the damage wasn't so high from all this extra stuff: runes, items, and summoner spells, then maybe Mordekaiser would be more effective in general.

That's not even core on Morde. His power spike is item 3116 item 3151

[sg-lulu]

Ahris1 votes

Mordekaiser isnt weak its just that no one plays him. That is why riot isnt buffing him.

Mordepool7 votes

The same Patch marksmen got nerfed his Playrate shot up to 5%. That's a 500% increase btw.

Noone plays him because he feels like garbage to play.

People want to play him the Enjoyment just isn't there

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