Calling it now: If Kai'sa can jungle, she will be abused doing so.

Raoul·Mar 6, 2018·2 votes·2,466 views

Calling it now.

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ERG H4V0CMar 6, 20182 votes

I've tried her in PBE jg, and it isn't bad. If you know how to kite you camps, you can pull it off, but it wasn't busted or anything. It was pretty decent, but nothing that could be abused. There is no one item on her that was super abusable by her. Her ganks could be pretty good cause of her E, but even then, she really has no CC to lock anyone down, meaning the laner would have to do that for them.

At the worst, she might be kinda burst and move into lane really fast with her E, and then in stealth cause of it's evovled form. But aside from that, she won't be that bad. I'm honestly all for marksmen Jg's, I find the playstyle fun and interesting. And I think it fits with her character as an 'Elite Hunter' of the void.

OleandervineMar 6, 20181 votes

How will she be abused? Her range of plasma tagging isn't global, so she already needs to be in mildly close proximity to ult in. Furthermore, it's no different than Shen or Galio ulting in on someone. So tell me, what abuse do you foresee?

RaoulMar 6, 20181 votes

Shen and Galio take forever to arrive and give you clear warnings.

What I am afreaid of is an ADC jungle who has nocturne like gank potential, that you cant ward against. If you lane opponent has ANY hard CC, she can just chill out of sight and BAM is next to you the second you misstep BAM!

She actually has better ganking potential than most Assassins do in this game, plus she deals more damage, plus shes ranged...

But hey, just wait, I will bump this thread once her jungle gets nerfed for being too broken...

That could take a while since we know how bias RIOT is towards broken ADCs, but still...

OleandervineMar 6, 20181 votes

Again, her tag range isn't global. If an enemy is seeing that "Hey, I'm becoming tagged by Kai'Sa" then that's a pretty damn big calling card that she's probably about to fly in on you.

Furthermore, you CAN ward against her, unlike Nocturne, who actively SHUTS DOWN ALL VISION the enemy team has. Her invisibility lasts 0.5s, and it locks out her ability to attack while she's charging up (minimum time at AS cap = 0.75s), which means that you will never be blasted from stealth like Vayne will do. Additionally, her clear speeds in the jungle will be dependent on her Q, and her tagging dependent on her W if her team lacks hard CC, which actually both scale abysmally with AD. This means to jungle, she needs to build early AP, which means her auto-attacks will suffer because of this.

So I don't see why you're screaming about the sky falling, Chicken Little. You clearly haven't played her nor are you aware of the scalings in her kit. You're complaining about her just to complain about her.

RaoulMar 6, 20181 votes

Give it a month or so. I will bump this topic when it became obvious I am right.

FOR JUSTICEMar 6, 20181 votes

Then she is just a marksman jungler, like graves or kindred.

Just because shes a marksman dosent mean she has to be played botlane.

RaoulMar 6, 20181 votes

Just with Nocturne level gank potential...

ERG H4V0CMar 6, 20181 votes

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Just with Nocturne level gank potential...

And even so, what's wrong with that? If nocturne can do it, and is still pretty bad, why can't she do it? She doesn't even have the nearsighted to add to it, and as a marksmen, being so squishy and with zero self-peel or CC, she much risker than Nocturne.

RaoulMar 6, 20181 votes

Nocturne is an Assassin, the class that RIOT nerfs whenever they dare to become slightly relevant. Kai’Sa is an ADC, the class RIOT never nerfs, no matter how broken they are.

ERG H4V0CMar 6, 20181 votes

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Nocturne is an Assassin, the class that RIOT nerfs whenever they dare to become slightly relevant. Kai’Sa is an ADC, the class RIOT never nerfs, no matter how broken they are.

Nocturne also has a spell shield, a passive heal, and a fear.

it's a lot harder for him to die than it is for someone to just cc Kai'sa and then blow her up.

DawcelotMar 7, 20181 votes

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Nocturne is an Assassin, the class that RIOT nerfs whenever they dare to become slightly relevant. Kai’Sa is an ADC, the class RIOT never nerfs, no matter how broken they are.

uhhhh adc's get one shot by anyone who knows what they're doing, they're balanced imo