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Class Definitions have been so wack since the class updates to the point where they arent useful.

Rewt·12/8/2019, 10:06:26 PM·3 votes·941 views

Divers, Vanguards, Juggernauts, Wardens, Etc. None of this is really useful

There are 5 classes in the game. Tank, Assassin, Mage, Bruiser, Marksman. and there is The Prefix, support. Blitz is a Support Mage.

What your character is, Isn't defined by their kit. It's defined by their itemization. People like to say Warwick isn't a tank. I'm sorry but if your build is item 3065 item 1401 item 3047 item 3742 item 3748 item 3143 Then you are a tank. Your only damage item is Titanic, And that isn't even a dedicated Damage item. On the other hand if The Warwick Built item 1401 item 3071 item 3053 item 3748 item 3047 item 3065 That is a Buiser Build. Its Health + damage items, but tends towards low resistances.

Here is the main problem that im trying to point out. Whenever you make a post about tank damage being just waaaaay too fucking high, You have people saying that Warwick & Olaf aren't tanks, but when you have Titanic as your only damage item and you can kill an ADC in under 2 seconds..... Something might be afoot.

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Crescent Dusk12/8/2019, 10:25:31 PM1 votes

The funny part is when you are a full spirit visage, merc boots, thornmail, steraks, deadman's plate Nunu and a Sion/Warwick/Ekko is outlasting you because you do no damage whatsoever and at best you last about 2 secs less than the Sion and maybe 2 seconds more than the Ekko when focused.

The Nunu ult is also about as worthless as it gets for a tank. By the time you can use it if you wait for the CC to be used up so it doesn't go on full cooldown, you won't make it past half a channel of the ult.

The balancing in this game is atrocious when a Garen is way tankier than I am as a Nunu with many times more the damage.

Darkdemon65312/8/2019, 11:01:52 PM1 votes

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aren't tanks, but when you can kill an ADC in under 2 seconds..... Something might be afoot.

Your argument is that higher damage is indicative of being a tank?

Chembaron Yamada12/9/2019, 12:48:19 AM1 votes

Your logic is all over the place.

So you tell me that Warwick is a tank, since he builds mostly tank items. But then on the other hand, you call Blitzcrank a support mage, when his build also is dominated by tank items. Why is Blitzcrank a mage for you? I don't get it.

And to point it out: I disagree with you. What you are building does not solely define your role. Your playstyle has way more say in this here.

Dr. Mundo for example. People tend to say that he is a tank, since he builds nothing but tank items. But the value of a tank for his team comes from their disruptive ability. Tanks are able to CC the enemy team all over the place.

Does Mundo do that? No. Even if he builds tank items, what makes Dr. Mundo a threat for the enemy is not CC, but his damage. You know, just like a bruiser? He can take hits for ages, while dealing good damage in the middle of the enemy. Dr. Mundo plays way more like other juggernauts (bruisers), by running at the enemy team and cleaving everyone to death.

Another example: Jayce. Jayce builds almost exclusively lethality items. Does that make him an assassin? Is Jayce playing like a Zed, Talon, or Kha'Zix? No, because he is not jumping right into the enemy team, deleting a priority target, and jumping out again.

Jayce is unleashing great damage from superior range. He plays way more like an artillery mage, like Ziggs, Xerath. He is trying to nuke enemies with his empowered Q, then just going in for the last killing blow.