Improve Supports

destroyer22719··3 votes·1,755 views

Supports are one of the roles where many people hate and looks down upon. And there's a good reason why people don't want it. Some are riot's issue. Some aren't. I'll be discussing most of the issues support players have.

  • ADC

As a support, you're heavily reliant on your ADC for your laning phase. But there are times where your adc is trash and it really turns into a 1v2 lane. ADCs can sometimes be a bit too spoil and always expect their supports to die for them and all that stuff. When the supports do peel. The ADC doesn't say anything. When the support doesn't peel well for decent purposes (e.g. mana, ultimate cooldown, summoner spell cooldown, item cooldown) the ADC flames. Your team pays attention to the ADC and not you (the support) for helping them and thinking you did nothing.

  • Laning Phase

Most supports, with a small exception of Shen. Has weak early laning phase because of mana. The only way to fix that, is either A) Biscuit delivery rune from inspiration, or B) get mana items. The biscuit delivery is very helpful but doesn't give you enough of those. And the second one requires gold. Most support players will take last chapter or Tear. But it requires gold. And your gold income items don't give you all that much. But since your ADC will flame most of the time for taking their cs no matter how trash they are. This could be an issue. ADCs just have to spend their resources for poking. while the support has to spend resources on poking AND healing/shielding.

-Riot's Problem

With the removal of ultimate hat, which sorcery is a common primary rune for supports mostly due to summon aery. Ultimate reliant supports like Soraka, Lux, Karma, Jana, Sona, Thresh and many more are taken a hard hit. Ultimate hat was a prefered option for supports looking for a late game buff with their ultimate from 120 seconds to less than 60 that can help greatly in 1v1 (Lux and Thresh), or in laning phase (Karma), and most importantly, in Team Fights (Janna, Sona, Karma, Soraka, etc). And while the replaced rune, Nimbus Cloak can be effective on Rakan. That's pretty much it. The only other ultimate cooldown is presence of mind. But the only support that can wield its precision rune tree is lux. The other one that could be a tiny bit better is to reduce gold income items from 350 to 250. That means there's 250 left and supports can buy a full total of 5 potions instead of 3. Also, please buff gold generation items, they really do sort of suck.

9 Comments

MagicFlyingLlama2 votes

Meanwhile everyone is screaming for nerfs to Brand Rakan Janna

sweetrules1 votes

Rakan does need a nerf though. He offers good mobility, decent damage, decent healing, and good cc. Literally everything, and h'es good at all of it while building ap tank. He's good at all of it, not average. He should either be average like a true jack of all trades, or trade out strength in certain areas for more in others. He has no clear weaknesses.

I have no comment on Janna, haven't vsed her enough recently.

As for Brand, he is immobile, learn to play around him.

destroyer227191 votes

Rakan is decent, everything but his Q sucks. They cost way too much mana for its value. Heck, I think a maxed out Fiora Q cost the same than a Rakan tier 1 q. But you gotta respect grand entrance though. The other weakness for Rakan is simply banning Xayah. Although played with Miss Fortune. It is still quite uncommon for a Rakan player to play without Xayah primarily because of his E.

destroyer227191 votes

I don't play Brand. But Rakan has weak early laning phase. Many champions, Thresh Morgana Nami and many more can use their CC to stop grand entrance. As it takes 1 second before it actually knocks people airborne.

Champions like Karma can outrun Rakan during the 1 second windup time of grand entrance if they have their mobility. While TahmKench can eat his allies to save the knockup and the charm. Janna, all you have to do is abuse her weak early game by making her waste mana.

Bottom Laner1 votes

I play both ADC and support and completely disagree with this. Half of this sounds like an entitled rant blaming other players.

destroyer227191 votes

I don't think you play supports enough to know how trash lower-elo ADCs are when it comes to sportsmenship. Play with unranked or maybe bronze adc, and don't peel them. You'll find my statement above quite true to some.

Bottom Laner1 votes

I don't think you play league enough to know how trash players are in general when it comes to sportsmanship. People get famous in NA for getting repeatedly banned. And that's just NA.

Trust me, I've seen a lot of shit in bot lane. I've seen Caits melee assassins, Jinxs ult full hp targets at point blank range, and Rakans get killed by their own E's, and this is just this season.

Improving support isn't just giving you better ADCs though.

destroyer227191 votes

I never said it'll give you better ADCs. I think improving support's purpose is to make them scale better and not reliant on someone else as a support in general.

breakordoom4441 votes

Not sure if you've played supports... but these aren't the most right as I like to say.

1: The entire design of support and its champions was to either help the team/adc engage and(or) peel for them with shields and cc due to this design, we are always reliant on an adc or carry. its not your fault the ad is on a 48 hour rakia rampage, but you are still obligated to make the best out of your situation, i've carried some shit adcs before in my life.

2: with the rework of mana flow band and how supports build, mana is the least of your issues, there are only a couple of supports with cheddar laning. champions like: Leona Thresh can fuck you up if you can't apply enough pressure early game.

3: the current standard rune set for supports are as follows: Tanks: After shock Bone plating cosmic inspect conditioning/second wind biscuits overgrowth

Tahm Kench: guardian approach velocity bone plating what ever you like second wind over growth

Shields/heals(ranged) aery font of life mana flow revitalize transcendence scorch

Rakan and other simular shits Guardian Nimbus cloak revitalize Celerity conditioning or chrysalis revitalise

out rakan and aery supports, only mage supports take Sorcery, without a AP or AD build, thresh needs his team, he CANT 1v1 a mid laner, thresh isn't Ult reliant, sure its powerful but its useless if you can't divide up a fight.

I would go on, buts its 2 am.

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