For months, you cry about how Veigar was absolute shit, how he could do absolutely nothing and needed buffs.
So Riot buffs him, and he becomes a good pick.
And now you cry about how he needs to be absolutely gutted.
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brad10 votesIN OTHER NEWS, THE PEOPLE WHO ASKED FOR VEIGAR BUFFS ARE NOT THE SAME PEOPLE WHO ARE CURRENTLY ASKING FOR VEIGER NERFS
WHO WOULD HAVE FUCKING THOUGHT
BetaDude401 votesTHIS JUST IN:
A RECENT STUDY HAS FOUND THAT HAVING SEX CAN CAUSE WOMEN TO BECOME PREGNANT!
SCIENTISTS ARE SHOCKED!
magic pole1 votesshe can only get pregnant if she wants to though
BeatzBoyFTW5 votesAlso goes to people who:
Excitidly Insane2 votesWait what? People complained about Urgot?
< This dude? Who? When?
I need a link to that, I fancy a good laugh.
BeatzBoyFTW1 votesJust type "Urgot nerf", and you'll see a bunch of them lol
Excitidly Insane2 votesI tried, Google brought up a 404 because it doesn't know what an Urgot is.
Messaiga1 votesCinderhulk's design is/was fine, it was just over-tuned (and Sejuani benefited heavily due to her rebalancing in the preseason). Then they nerfed Cinderhulk, and then some of the champions that used it. Now it's in a decent spot, but the champions that previously used it suffer now (Zac, Sejuani, Rammus, Sion, Volibear, etc). The primary focus of Cinderhulk was to increase the clear speed of tanks with the Immolate passive burn, not to make tank junglers broken.
A Liberal5 votesI long for the day bard is a FOTM pick.
Bemapon1 votesI dont. Then he will get gutted.
I dont want them to kill my Bard.
A Liberal1 votesNah, bard can't be gutted. His kit is so full of utility that even if he dealt no dmg and his hp packs were just a targeted speed boost, he would still be playable.
Bemapon1 votesUnless they nerf his utility somehow.
A Liberal2 votesI can see it now: "OMG NERF BARD HE HAS A SEMIGLOBAL TELEPORT ON A 6 SECOND COOLDOWN, HAS SCALING AUTOATTACKS FROM SIMPLY WALKING AROUND, A GLOBAL HEAL AND SPEED BOOST, AND AN ULTIMATE WORTH 30,000 GOLD!! HOW DID RIOT LET THIS ABOMINATION EXIST? WHY CAN'T YOU RELEASE BALANCED CHAMPIONS LIKE 
AND 
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Shroom Junkie4 votesLiterally buffed one thing. ONE. THING. And suddenly he needs nerfed again.
Bârd1 voteswell,
two things
Shroom Junkie1 votesMeh, only one that really matters.
Bârd1 votesWell, both were significant.
The first tacks on about 100 AP to his total each game The second takes Dark Matter, an AOE nuke that will put most squishes below half health, and reduces its delay by .25 seconds.
Shroom Junkie1 votesTo get 100 extra AP than normally he'd have to have at least 14 assists which, unless his entire team was snowballing like crazy and he was helping a lot, would take until at least 30-ish minutes. And that's only because of Rabadon's and Archmage's % increase.
I get that it comes out to be a lot later in the game, but it only makes sense, him being a late game mage and all.
Remlap12233 votesWhat, you're saying that the boards have no sense of consistency? SAY IT AIN'T SO!
Lost In Time2 votesVeigar was shit right after the rework, only because his stun cage had the cast time still attached.
But, you see, circlejerkers often don't know what exactly they're circlejerking about, so they still clung on to the whole "Veigar is shit" train, even though some Diamond Veigar mains says he's was in a good spot after they fixed his cage.
Fast-foward to unneccesary buffs, and now we have an abomination, and it's only taken months for the circlejerkers to realize "Oh shit, he's actually viable"
Remlap12232 votesNo, here's how it worked.
Veigar's cage was too reliable and didn't have any counterplay to it, and shut down the mobility meta of the LCS, so Riot reworked, I'm sorry, gave him "compensation" for the removal of DFG by completely gutting his kit. He was supposed to get the dash cancel on his kit right away, but for some reason instead of just iceboxing the "rework" until they fixed it, they shipped it out anyways, and a broken cage, alongside an obnoxiously long cast time plummeted his winrate down to 38%.
After a couple of buffs, he stopped being complete trash, but people realized that he still needed more reliability is his kit. So they cut down the cast time to his W and gave AP on assists, which were huge QOL buffs, but then they realized, "oh shit, Veigar actually has a fuckton of damage." And the fact that he was made insanely more reliable due to the buffs to his W and E, he could now dish his natural ridiculous amounts of damage with impunity, hence why he's so strong now.
Really, all he needs is to get rid of the %AP damage scaling on his ultimate, and maybe tweak the base values of his damage dealing spells and the duration of his stun and he'll be balanced.
Lost In Time3 votesNo, here's how it worked.
Veigar's cage was too reliable and didn't have any counterplay to it, and shut down the mobility meta of the LCS, so Riot reworked, I'm sorry, gave him "compensation" for the removal of DFG by completely gutting his kit. He was supposed to get the dash cancel on his kit right away, but for some reason instead of just iceboxing the "rework" until they fixed it, they shipped it out anyways, and a broken cage, alongside an obnoxiously long cast time plummeted his winrate down to 38%.
After a couple of buffs, he stopped being complete trash, but people realized that he still needed more reliability is his kit. So they cut down the cast time to his W and gave AP on assists, which were huge QOL buffs, but then they realized, "oh shit, Veigar actually has a fuckton of damage." And the fact that he was made insanely more reliable due to the buffs to his W and E, he could now dish his natural ridiculous amounts of damage with impunity, hence why he's so strong now.
Really, all he needs is to get rid of the %AP damage scaling on his ultimate, and maybe tweak the base values of his damage dealing spells and the duration of his stun and he'll be balanced.
Getting AP on assists isn't a QoL buff. It's a straight buff. So it removing cast times.
Remlap12231 votesGetting AP on assists isn't a QoL buff. It's a straight buff. So it removing cast times.
Which improved his QOL. You wouldn't think Draven would be played a lot more if he could expend his passive on assists?
All these buffs were centered around making his kit less clunky to play. Making a less obnoxious cast time doesn't make him do more damages, so it's not a straight buff, it just makes it more reliable, which is what about improving QOL is, making the champion have more consistency.
LadyRenly1 votesWhich improved his QOL. You wouldn't think Draven would be played a lot more if he could expend his passive on assists?
All these buffs were centered around making his kit less clunky to play. Making a less obnoxious cast time doesn't make him do more damages, so it's not a straight buff, it just makes it more reliable, which is what about improving QOL is, making the champion have more consistency.
Getting AP on assists is not quality of life. QoL is stuff like smoothing out how a champion plays, such as removing cast time on a speedup ability, or giving someone an indicator for an execute ability
Chortle2 votes
the cycle of life and death continues
General Esdeath 1 votesEveryone laughed at him saying "lol ded champ" like wut
Curling Veigar1 voteshah, no one believed me... now i cant play my main in ranked anymore because of unnecessary buffs that no good veigar main i know wanted 
TotalJerk1 votesNobody sensible wants him gutted, we just want them to ease back a bit on the last buff. Personally I thought he was in a perfectly balanced state before the most recent buff, although I didn't care for how Q centric he was.
redniwediS1 votesI really don't understand how people can't see the difference between a board section and a group of people...
The people who thought Veigar were weak are not the same people who think he is too strong now. There's more than one person posting on G&B you know.
THESuperStuntMan1 votesUm, that's how buffs work. If you continually buff even the worst champion in the game enough times they eventually become OP. Veigar really WAS garbage tier a few months ago, but they have superbuffed him since then so now he's strong.
YCitizenSnipsY1 votes"a good pick" is that what you call it?
I'm sorry there is a difference between a good pick and the most picked champion of the role who is also the highest performing champion. What is it with you veigar mains acting like this increase in his popularity came out of nowhere? He used to be complained about for not being the worst mid laner in the game now he is the best, you ever stop and wonder if their might just be a reason for that?
BadmoonBC1 votesPeople cry about dumb shit and don't realize how powerful a champ is. They said veigar sucks but they forget that he's the most powerful late game apc in the game after about 25minutes
PiVoRx1 votesimo its not g&b, its that veigar is not "#LCSBIGPLAYS" champion and riot dont want those to run unchecked
Uva9x6gDhC1 votesAlmost everyone here has downs, what you expect
Wînter Fox1 votesThe ones who cried about Veigar being "gutted" was the summer crowd. Need I say more?
Photos of Ghosts1 votesRiot first gave him tons of useless buffs, then the right one. Why is anyone surprised then when he started to be able to use his W all the previous buffs made him go over the top?