In regards to ADCs abusing Bruiser and Assassin items

HaloDragonX·5/28/2016, 6:36:21 PM·1 votes·518 views

In preseason item 3153 was completely nerfed because "Kalista was too strong with it."

Beginning of the season we had item 3156 and item 3053, bruiser items abused by ranged carries (Would say ADCs but Kayle you're here too.) So what did Riot do? Nerf them.

Quarter-way through the season we had item 3124 begin to see play on Tristana, Varus, and Ashe. These 3 didn't become particularly over powered because of it and they certainly had the clear downside of having to attack 8 times just for it to become useful. But Riot doesn't like this, even if it's the only way for these champions to be relevant in the item 3508 meta.

Now it is mid-season and AD carries are now using item 3142 with item 3071 (Some even use item 3147 but this item wouldn't be used if the other 2 weren't such a good combo, so I'm not really counting this item as it is mostly under performing.)

So what about the bruisers who used these items? What about them? Did Riot do anything for them?


Kalista was nerfed to the ground, but we still haven't seen a single buff to item 3153.

item 3053 is still built because sometimes because it gives an effective 20% extra health. item 3156 is built because Spirit Visage and Veil were nerfed to the ground making it the only good MR item left. (Tanks aren't suppose to be hurt by mages. They already had Void Staff to do that, what was the point of making tanks weaker to them?) Can't use item 3053 and item 3156 together, AD carries ruined that for them and Riot gave Bruisers no compensation.

item 3124 gets completely gutted only becoming good on KogMaw and Kayle (And my item 3042 Varus attack speed with cleaver build.) Meanwhile Jax (who's winrate was already under 50% in the top lane) drops even more for this patch. Thank god item 3078 is becoming a bruiser item again. (Inb4 some ADC abuses it somehow.) Meanwhile Tristana, Varus, and Ashe who became viable champions because of it don't get buffed either. I mean this isn't even ADCs abusing the item, the item had a clear weakness but Riot doesn't like diversity or something.

And now we have item 3142 and item 3071 being used by AD carries. Twitch and Draven seem to be fine with it because they were made to be snowball carries. Hell I even see people whine about item 3147 when this item made to kill TANKS is underperforming at that job.


So what solution for the 3 armor pen items, item 3142 item 3071 item 3147 , should be made? item 3142 just has so many stats. You'd have to lower something on it, but I think you'd want to wait a patch on that. item 3071 needs to be melee only. Varus is the only ADC who built is before. I don't expect Varus to get buffed (just like bruisers) but it would be nice if you did, if you do this. Easy way to make item 3147 not under perform at killing tanks is make the passive deal magic damage. Won't synergize with armor pen to kill squishy targets while tanks, who stack armor like every other tank, will take more damage from it because it's magic.

We've solved the whole item 1416 problem with the 4 hit clause but lately Riot hasn't found good ways to stop AD carries from using Bruiser items. Even now item 3124 is infinitely better on a ranged champion, not because there isn't a 4 hit clause, but because it's too weak on a melee champion. The reason the old item 3124 could be considered balanced (with the stacking mechanic) was the double stacking melee clause Melees who could be kited and had to be in melee range had a stacking boost while a ranged champion who was safe at a distance and could kite stacked slower.

9 Comments

Defended5/28/2016, 7:17:10 PM2 votes

adcs? You mean Graves Kindred quinn lucian ezreal?

Sneakyy XD5/28/2016, 6:41:27 PM1 votes

What is your question/point?

71883083DEL15/28/2016, 6:44:15 PM1 votes

I thought they removed seasons

9L9L9L9L9L9L9L5/28/2016, 8:16:27 PM1 votes

Black Cleaver be melee only? Hell naw, that would hurt Mini Gnar alot.

Gibberwatt5/28/2016, 8:29:59 PM1 votes

Maybe if they modified all the bruisery items, to make them have less ad, but more tank stats. This would force the adc's to use the adc items, to keep up their damage. This would also allow the bruisers to get tanky/damagy at the same time