Jinx and vayne now both have positive winrates, despite being explicitly late game carries.

Rivuo··5 votes·398 views

This honestly shocks me. Why were they even buffed.

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Solemdeath4 votes

You're telling me, they need to lose more matches than they win matches and only then will they become balanced?

GULAG 4 U2 votes

Perhaps you're failing to realize their (vayne specifically) winrate only goes higher than 50 after 30 minutes?

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

not allowed to win if you play jinx or vayne ?

Limmie1 votes

That's because the meta shifted so that matches last longer, which makes late game champions more relevant. Early season was all about lanning phase and snowballing so matches ended or at least were decided pretty soon. At some point the average match was 22 mins long. Late game carries had no room in that meta.

Also Jinx's buff to her ult was pretty minor, and she had a nerf to her chompers to compensate.

NodirjonSattarov1 votes

Matches do not last longer

Limmie1 votes

Um... but they do? Average is now 30 mins, a 25% increase.

Chief Mayonnaise1 votes

Heres a post that Gypsylord made about why they balance Jinx with having an above 50% winrate

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/BiL98QHi-this-is-a-disgusting-excuse-for-an-olaf-riot-jinx-pbe-changes?comment=00070005

As for Vayne, I actually do think she's too strong rn. She was designed to build attack speed to synergize with her silver bolts, but her most popular build is designed to deal a ridiculous amount of damage in only a few auto attacks.

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