Lucian has always been more broken than Tristana

Adrian RYC·Oct 24, 2014·6 votes·906 views

I know I'm not the only one who feels this way. I mean, statistics don't lie to me. Every game that play in that has Lucian, I always look at damage done to champions. Lucian is always ahead by a massive amount regardless if he is on the winning or losing team. Lucian can have 3 kills and say 10 assists, he will still have the most damage to champions in game. Not to mention his no mana cost dash. (Yes I know it has mana cost up until you max it out).

10 Comments

Drunk RummateOct 24, 20144 votes

damage to champs tab can be misleading. i often do far more damage to champions that anyone on my team when i play support with zyra, for example.

lucian's a lane bully so he gets a lot of damage on champions during the lane phase that doesn't necessarily translate to kills or objectives.

Poorly DressedOct 24, 20142 votes

Ban him 24/7 like they did with Kassadin before his rework ;) solved!

YakasOct 24, 20142 votes

People have to realize that lucian has to get his combos off. He does large damage but only if he goes between skills which takes time. Take advantage of it and use an adc like jinx where you snare him, get out of range, the kill him. Not that difficult if you bait is dash right.

Kuroi86Oct 24, 20142 votes

Broken suggests that something is not working as intended, a bug.

What you're saying is better defined as overpowered. Do you have proof to back this claim? Comparing his numbers to other high mobility champs to show where his damage out scales theirs.

12talesOct 24, 20142 votes

I mean, statistics don't lie to me.

Lying is the primary function of statistics.

A poke oriented ADC is always going to have way more damage to champions than an all in ADC. Corki, Lucian, Kog'Maw, Ezreal - if you're playing them well, you're going to far outstrip someone like Twitch or Jinx, at least by that metric.

Jungle Lux GodOct 24, 20142 votes

That actually makes a lot of sense. Here's why:

-Lucian has AoE damage between his Piercing Light and his Ardent Blaze. Tristana has almost entirely single target damage, with the exceptions of Explosive Shot's passive and Buster Shot. This means that Lucian will most likely deal damage to more targets at a time than Tristana does.

-Tristana has a lot less ranged poke than Lucian, giving him a lot more chances to deal damage to champions, especially in a siege scenario.

JustMyBassCannonOct 24, 20141 votes

Tristana has almost entirely single target damage, with the exceptions of Explosive Shot's passive and Buster Shot.

Actually, Tristana only has Explosive Shot and Rocket Jump for AoE damage. Buster Shot's only AoE is on the knockback; the damage is still entirely single-target.

Jungle Lux GodOct 24, 20141 votes

I stand corrected on Buster Shot's damage.

I purposely didn't put in Rocket Jump's AoE damage because in many scenarios, you don't use it for damage, you use it for mobility. Regardless, she still doesn't have a lot of AoE damage because her two AoE abilities scale with a stat that Tristana doesn't scale up with on her standard ADC build, which we are considering here.

NarasimhaOct 24, 20141 votes

If you're going by statistics, then Revive is the number one cause of death in the game.

BlkGolemOct 27, 20141 votes

Yeah he's been op since they buffed him after his release where he was terrible. He has way too much burst plus having great sustain damage; the difference between adc's and ad casters is mainly being ranged, having mobility, and having ratios. Lucian has good ratios and mobility whereas other adc's might have one or two at most that are ad. This is why ad casters are op, since they have burst and sustained damage. Does a "Fighter Assassin" make any sense? (Talking more about Lee now)