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Why does Garen & Darius differs so much?

BeatzBoyFTW··1 votes·934 views

  • Both are Fighter/Tank champs (no shit)

  • Garen has easy mechanics to stick to people, while Darius lost his movement speed boost from his passive & the Flash-pull bug thingy.

  • Garen has a silence which can really harm AD/AP casters for him to deal overwhelming damage(I mean only compared to the AD/AP caster enemies), while Darius only has a simple 1 second slow which doesn't help with the gap-closing part.

  • Garen can get to deal a full damaging spin since his movement speed doesn't get reduced anymore, whereas Darius has such a clunky 0.75 second delay where most mobile enemies can escape from.

  • Garen gets to have both a stacking Armor/MR & an active damage reduction ability, while all Darius have is a heal where the enemy is assumed to be stupid enough to stand still for him to hit the clunky outer Q. Other than that, no self-defence buff ability available (do be reminded that the attack speed reduction on his W is removed)

  • All of Garen's abilities & auto-attacks gets to deal true damage to this one guy with recent kills(especially that bonus damage from hitting a single target with his E), whilst Darius is very limiting. If he missed the dunk-kill, then his damage output becomes significantly reduced in teamfights.

Preferred buffs for Darius imo:

  • Decrease the delay on his Q to 0.5 from 0.75. The current one is too slow.

  • Darius gains a burst of bonus 35/40/45/50/55/60 movement speed if he hits at least one enemy champion on the outer Q, which diminishes over 1 second.

  • One of the following:

W- Passive: Darius gains 2/3/4/5/6% reduced damage for each bloodied enemy champions (max 25%) or Ult- For each successful kills by dunking, Darius gains 10% reduced damage (max 30%)

7 Comments

SulkingKING1 votes

The differences you didn't mention:

Garen has a sword. Swords are generally easier to wield, have a shorter attack range, and are mostly blade so they'll cut more often.

Darius has an executioners axe. Executioner Axes are generally harder to wield, have a longer attack range, and have only one to two parts with blades so they'll cut less often.

Because of these differences one can assume the following: Garen can swing his weapon easier, allowing him to spin more. Darius must take considerably more effort to swing his weapon, allowing him to put more power into each swing.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

And Brand can still die to Ignite/healed by Nami, so even though I understand what you mean, realism like these don't apply too much in Lol.

CreationFlaw1 votes

{quoted}

And Brand can still die to Ignite/healed by Nami, so even though I understand what you mean, realism like these don't apply too much in Lol.

Noxian Might: Upon applying full Hemorrhage stacks to an enemy champion or killing them with Noxian Guillotine, Darius gains Noxian Might for 5 seconds, during which he gains 「 40 - 200 」bonus attack damage and instantly applies full Hemorrhage stacks through his usual means.

Probably that. Oh, he has passive armor penetration and 550 range pull with a 90% slow, another 90% auto attack modifier that resets his auto attack timer, and % missing health heal.

SulkingKING1 votes

{quoted}

And Brand can still die to Ignite/healed by Nami, so even though I understand what you mean, realism like these don't apply too much in Lol.

Keagan (the guy Brand possessed) can be healed by name, and die by magic fire. *

Terff1 votes

he doesnt need a buff

Critmaster Garen1 votes
  • darius gets a pull with a slow
  • darius gets and auto attack rest with the slow on his w, with a mana and cooldown return to easily lasthit
  • darius gets inbuilt in combat sustain on his q that scales with his maximum health.
  • darius gets a physical damage bleed that applies cleaver stacks
  • darius ult always deals true damage, and resets on kill, in addition to giving him a 200 ad steroid and the ability to instantly spread 5 bleed stacks to other targets.

youre right, theyre different. exactly what the rework was supposed to accomplish. by the way, even though theyre really close in general strength, darius has a higher winrate than garen after the last patch.

both of them are fine now.

Dr Poro1 votes

buffs for Darius buffs for Darius ? buffs for Darius ??!?!??!??

Dude. http://champion.gg/champion/Darius/Top

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