Boards: "Mobility is way too OP, playing immobile champions just is depressing...

Sonic Adventure·Jul 21, 2018·3 votes·1,042 views

...NERF BRAND"

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15 Comments

redniwediSJul 21, 20187 votes

It's a good thing the "boards" isn't a single entity, otherwise it would be a hypocrite.

Except a statement on Brand's strength isn't a statement on mobility...

JamareeJul 21, 20182 votes

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ZackTheWaffleManJul 22, 20181 votes

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MOLTinaTORJul 21, 20181 votes

Why is everyone demanding a nerf towards brand all of a sudden? Don't get me wrong, I'm not against a nerf to brand, that champ is an atrocity. The boards are flooded with Brand posts.

BijeesnyJul 21, 20181 votes

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Why is everyone demanding a nerf towards brand all of a sudden? Don't get me wrong, I'm not against a nerf to brand, that champ is an atrocity. The boards are flooded with Brand posts.

Cuz they can't dodge W, which is his main dmg ability, so they complain. Litle do they know, it will either just keep him on bot lane, or it will delete him from the game.

Tahminatrix Jul 22, 20182 votes

You try playing against brand when your teammates don't dodge w earlygame

also is extremely hard to dodge anything after he finishes item 3116 and presses e on you.

Oh wait nvm mobile champs can avoid that ...hmmm.

BijeesnyJul 22, 20181 votes

So just because your teammates are disabled apes who cannot dodge spells Brand should be nerfed? xD

If you let Brand to walk up to you and open the combo with E without any retaliation, then you srsly deserve to lose against him. The only dangerous spell in Brand's kit is his W, and it's just because it has a rly long range on it. That's the only thing Riot should nerf on him, anything else will just keep him on support role, or remove him from the game in the worse case.

Tahminatrix Jul 22, 20181 votes

My retaliation is a slow tied to a skillshot that roots me for half a second.

BijeesnyJul 22, 20181 votes

For which Brand needs to walk up close to you and your supp (assuming you're playing adc, or vice versa). So if you and you botlane partner can't assume what Brand will do if he starts to walk close to you and answer to it with a good ol' burst (and one simple sidestep after he throws Q, IF he hits it), then sorry to say but.... git gud. he's not invincible, he's squishy af, immobile and his biggest strenght lies in W, followed by his others spells, which he NEEDS to land on you so he can proc his passive. before he hits 6, all you have to do is literally dodge ONE of his spells, preferably W, and he can't do anything before he gets his cooldowns. And it's not like you can't itemize against him. There are MR items which can both you and your botlane partner take (ADC- item 3140 , supp- item 3028 )

And i didn't even counted you jungler in. If Brand wants to go ham on you (with is why you're taking him in the first place), just call your jungler and he will make a new asshole to Brand.

Tahminatrix Jul 22, 20181 votes

I don't think TahmKench can effectively buy either of those items. Idk how to dodge brand e q at melee range.

Also what is this burst damage you speak of because I have none.

His stun lasts longer than mine and is way faster to setup than mine. item 3111 makes it last as long as mine.

BijeesnyJul 22, 20181 votes

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I don't think can effectively buy either of those items. Idk how to dodge brand e q at melee range.

How are you even allowing him to come to you at a melee range? And why don't you pick some1 else besides Kench? xD Pick Karma, after he wastes Q because you give a speed buff on E to whoever brand is aiming at, W and then RQ.

Also what is this burst damage you speak of because I have none.

I looked you up on opgg (sry, was interested what runes ure taking). I'm mostly playing on other acc, but I'm a support main aswell. I'm playing Kench aswell, but I like to take Precision/domination rune set, with PtA as a keystone, that does some nasty dmg :) But if you want to play with your set (Resolve/Inspir) then do it like this:

Guardian, Bone Plating, 2nd Wind, Overgrowth on Resolve Biscuit Delivery and Time Warp Tonic on Insipration With this set you will be able to whitstand a lot of dmg, even from Brand

His stun lasts longer than mine and is way faster to setup than mine. makes it last as long as mine.

But unlike your stun, he needs to actually hit his spells, while Kench just needs to autoattack

Edit: Imma put my rune set here, in case you're interested to try it http://prntscr.com/k9kkgt

You can take Triumph instead of PoM, and Last stand instead of Coup de grace, and switching between Resolve and domination secondary

Tahminatrix Jul 22, 20181 votes

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How are you even allowing him to come to you at a melee range?

Kench is melee

And why don't you pick some1 else besides Kench? xD Pick Karma, after he wastes Q because you give a speed buff on E to whoever brand is aiming at, W and then RQ.

I looked you up on opgg (sry, was interested what runes ure taking). I'm mostly playing on other acc, but I'm a support main aswell. I'm playing Kench aswell, but I like to take Precision/domination rune set, with PtA as a keystone, that does some nasty dmg :)

I normally go Precision/Resolve but I got sick of people out running me after I Q them so I had to get magical footwear and approach velocity.

But if you want to play with your set (Resolve/Inspir) then do it like this:

Guardian, Bone Plating, 2nd Wind, Overgrowth on Resolve Biscuit Delivery and Time Warp Tonic on Insipration With this set you will be able to whitstand a lot of dmg, even from Brand

But unlike your stun, he needs to actually hit his spells, while Kench just needs to autoattack

I need to land 2/3 autos (2 if I already landed q once), he has to use his E which is a ranged point and click and goes much faster than 3 autos.

I need to land my q at the end, he needs to land his q at the end, BOTH are skillshots.

Since when was tahm`s stun a point and click and not a skillshot.

Edit: Imma put my rune set here, in case you're interested to try it http://prntscr.com/k9kkgt

Teridax68Jul 22, 20182 votes

Brand has ruffled some feathers ever since he started becoming viable as a bot lane support. From what I've seen, much of the criticism he receives is that his bases are very generous, but also that he has a fair amount of point-and-click damage abilities, namely his E and ult. Not only does this make interactions with certain Keystones (e.g. Electrocute) unhealthy, it also means that even when he misses, he still gets to output a lot of damage, especially in duo lanes where his ult can easily hit the same target multiple times.

Praetor NotoriasJul 22, 20181 votes

He's really easy to play against though. Make him cast spells and dodge them if they are cast towards you. He'll run out of mana and then you kick his ash. Don't stand close together when he's 6 and has ult. Build some freaking MR or an Adaptive Helm. If he's THAT much of a problem for you, built it on an AP champ. Watch what a useless brand does with his time after that. Take notes and write a book about it.

SEKAIJul 22, 20181 votes

Just give his W a slightly longer delay, like 0.1 seconds more or so, and the complained lane pressure aspect of Brand disappears.

The R isn't really the center of his problem, it's like saying a teamfight mage is a problem because they are a teamfight mage and good at their job, which is insane. And even if they have to remake it just because, it's gonna be the entire thing as nerfs and buffs won't cut it at all (given the bounce is what is talked about), so it's not like it's gonna be done any time soon anyway.

Just focus on tweaking with W's delay, pretty sure that'll solve most of the complains people really have against him.