At this rate, should Karthus just get a new ult?

Vhan8765··1 votes·361 views

The only good feature about Karthus' ult is the fact you don't need to leave lane to properly use it, but aside from that it just doesn't get the job done anymore. They are already a plenty of ways to counter it (and counting), the damage output isn't very high (only a base of 550 damage maxed), and it's pretty much useless in every game mode besides Summoner's Rift.

I've been playing Karthus since season 2 and his ult was one of the best things in the world. Your hardest counter was Soraka back then mostly. Now though we get the honey fruit plant, we get this new assassin item that channels a shield (on a 30 second CD), and Karthus is just sitting there like, "This is okay. This is fine. I didn't want more souls to join my choir today anyways."

As for suggestions for his new ult if he were to get one, I have none currently. I just woke up a bit ago and saw this post: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/3tTY3wIR-karthus-will-become-more-usless-thanks-to-edge-of-knight And it was just kind of was like, "Dang man, they're right." I personally love the Death Singer, he will always be one of my favorite champions to play and I just feel like he's been long forgotten to the point where Riot doesn't even consider too much how their new updates will effect him. His play rate is almost nonexistent as well, I see maybe a single Karthus player besides myself like, maybe once every 3 months at most? The rest of his kit is beautiful still but I feel like getting a new ult would do Karthus a world of wonders. Maybe even make him meta again, though that is just wishful thinking on my part.

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Sona x Rubick4 votes

karthus niche should be global presence but he can't do it with his ulti that takes 3 sec to be activated and with 200 seconds cooldown

i suggest they reduce the delay, the cooldown AND the damage.

but that's only my opinion.

Miror B2 votes

For me, if they really wanted to "fix" him then they'd make all of his spells barring his e unblockable by items/character passives. Then it'd force the entire map into a bit of a "cat and mouse" game in which if they don't immediately target and kill him then he'll eventually outdamage them and straight up kill them (similar to assassins, only with better overall scaling).

Sexy Jack Rabbit1 votes

Karthus's ult is better being used in the same manner as a Gangplanks ultimate. To help out other lanes and fetch free bonus gold. It's hardly to be used as an execute at this point. I do not agree with the 'Edge of the Night' item, however If you're making an enemy Assassin use theirs it helps. Not too mention Karthus's ultimate does have a 60% AP ratio, with enough AP you're going to bring any enemy adc down to at least half health. If the item proves to problematic (Which is probably will) I can see the item being removed or nerfed significantly. Counterplay isn't a bad thing, a 5 Man Global ultimate is powerful as fuck, if it had no counterplay I'd probably uninstall league.

Ralanr1 votes

Idk, I think his ult is fine. Sure there are ways to counter it, but is that really bad? I play Sion and he has a lot of counterplay.

BakedLotion1 votes

New spellshield item LUL good fucking luck landing that on anyone anymore. Mages will buy zhonyas and every AD champion will buy the armorpen+mr+spellshield item.

GoronMuncherV1 votes

I definitely think his gigantic cooldown, easily counter ult is very outdated. Maybe back in the day it was impressive, but nowadays it's mostly a joke. Read a great suggestion in that thread you linked:

Just make Karthus ult a channeled drain, and make the first tick of damage break spell shield.

This would be a great start to making his ult something worth fearing again. Maybe reduce the cooldown a bit too.

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