Dynamic Queue is NOT balanced

xVARIANTx·4/12/2016, 11:52:57 AM·106 votes·3,335 views

Ok I just played two game in a row (ranked) and I was on a team of solo vs a 3 man premade both times. First time, they were all in the same club. Second time the jungler admitted it. We have stats for four and five man premades but what about three man premades? IF the stats were so low of solo teams going against premade teams, how could it happen twice in a row?

69 Comments

xVARIANTx4/12/2016, 12:25:55 PM29 votes

IT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN AT ALL. Dynamic teams have a serious advantage over solo teams. I asked both of my teams and they said no. On side note, why do you think Riot censors the showing of who is premade or not? Perhaps to hide the imbalances of dynamic queue? But I digress. Happening twice in a row is not just a fluke. It's a serious error in balance.

xVARIANTx4/12/2016, 12:29:20 PM8 votes

Reaver, that argument is invalid because that can be said about any situation in the game where the other team has an unfair advantage(ie: 4v5s, which of course, Riot isn't doing anything about either). There is no mmr penalty for premade teams. They have the unfair advantage of being able to coordinate better and IF there is no mmr advantage given to the solo team then fundamentally the teams are imbalanced.

Vistha Kai4/12/2016, 5:54:48 PM5 votes

Just two times?

I had that happen 4 times in a row one day. Four ranked games in a row of being camped whole game by 3 game-abusing turds in the same club and nothing for me to do, since I'm playing solo and my team has a duo at best.

PS. OP, first of all try the "Reply" option, so people actually know who you are responding to.

1st Movement4/12/2016, 12:24:58 PM4 votes

i have won a whole team of solos vs a premade 3 on the enemy team before just bc theyre more coordinated doesnt mean you cant outplay them and stomp them real hard

xVARIANTx4/12/2016, 3:53:58 PM4 votes

Bump because there aren't enough threads complaining about Dynamic Queue.

CodyBear 4/12/2016, 6:35:42 PM4 votes

That's why Riot loves Dynamic Queue to frustrate us and make us play more.

Dr W4/12/2016, 9:54:13 PM4 votes

dynamic q is hot garbage. Please remain silent Riot.

Quepha4/12/2016, 10:07:31 PM4 votes

The first game (Malphite) does appear to probably have been a very rare situation where a premade goes against solos, although it's possible that you had a trio on your team who only played one game with each other if they met each other in a chat room or something.

The second game (Pantheon), however, clearly had a trio on your team to match the trio on the enemy's. OP.gg shows that three of the players on your team have played multiple games with each other.

Secretlolz4/13/2016, 12:22:17 AM3 votes

This game is shit ATM thanks to Dynamic Queue

xVARIANTx4/12/2016, 5:36:21 PM3 votes

OP.GG does not show you is premade because that information was censored by Riot. What it does show is who you have played with in the past. If people did randomly decide to just play together because they did well together(which happens quite often). That would not show, and exactly how hard did you look. What would be you interest in 'proving' me a liar? Also, I NEVER SAID IT WAS THE SAME TEAM BOTH TIMES. It was two random 3 man premades both times. And I'll repeat, first time they were all in the same club, second time it was the jungler who admitted it.

T RexHasTinyArms4/13/2016, 3:07:42 AM3 votes

Because you're a special snowflake of unique numberness. Seriously though, even if it is rare it would back to back a few games a day with the number of games played every day.

56552559_DEL4/12/2016, 9:56:14 PM1 votes

That isnt even the worst part. You also get a bunch of these gold+ players on smurf accounts either playing solo or helping their friends to a higher elo and if that happens, you are pretty much guaranteed a loss because of how unbalanced and unfair it is. where a high level player can do that against a bunch of solo players trying their damnest to get out of bronze, while at the same time having to deal with a bunch of asshats that play ranked like its a fucking bots game where they refuse to ward or leave lane to help (this is my experience every fucking match in ranked i go into).

Homohammad6/13/2016, 9:01:13 PM1 votes

Agreed. Does not feel balanced at all. When Riot says the chances of winning are always 50%, I think they are just straight out lying. They have abandoned balance for shorter queue times for all those mid and top mains.

KillerKell4/14/2016, 7:35:52 AM1 votes

Probability. Your sample size is WAY to small to be conclusive of anything.