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Im sad that the gap between meta champ and the other is so huge .

Oerba No Naja·2/15/2017, 11:06:25 PM·53 votes·3,272 views

Meta champions are just too strong compared to the others , I wish i could win bc of my skill and not bc i picked the champions riot wants me to play . Its obvious its a commercial strat , u spam patchs notes , u make some champs op and gut some every patchs . People who want to play meta have to buy champs since PI gains from games are low . Sad that Tencent is now the boss of Riot games , and since the day tencent bought riot games , it was the beginning of the end . ( Tencent own pay2win mobile games like clash royal , recently realeased " mobile legend " extremely similar to lol but champs cost 20 000 PI , its a chinese company , its only aim is to make money ) 10 bans for draft or balance and bring back champs diversity , I'm tired to have to play against full lethality comps as a 300 armor and die as fast as a squishy .

EDIT : Im not saying thats impossible to climb the ladder with off meta champs , but that the balance hurts the gameplay diversity , wich make it harder to climb with off meta unless u invest a lot of effort and time being a really good OTP . if the game diveristy is so poor , its bc meta champs are not simply slightly stronger than the others . People want to have the higher win rate so they spam whats op . http://www.lolking.net/charts/champion-popularity?region=all&range=weekly&map=sr&queue=1x1&league=diamond ( most pop champs , all regions ,weekly , diamond )
5 champions with lethality on a top 10 play rate , and six if u count Lee . 1 ap ( corki, but is he really a mage ) 2 supports 0 tanks 0 control mages ect ...

49 Comments

rtbf761092712/16/2017, 12:46:48 AM22 votes

farming, mistakes and poor decisions have a much larger impact on games than the strength of champions. Which means unless you are extremely good at the game, how OP/UP a champion is should be irrelevant except for ridiculous release mistakes like camille.

Just like I could beat silver sc2 players with mass sentry and bronze players with mass workers, a challenger league player could roll me with

Aatrox DrMundo Chogath Fiddlesticks JarvanIV Karthus Kassadin Pantheon Tristana Teemo Volibear Yorick Urgot Skarner Sejuani Nunu

or any other champion which is not particularly strong for the highest level of players

KVbqbFsC8e2/15/2017, 11:13:36 PM7 votes

Unless you are playing at a very high ELO, its entirely irrelevant.

NotCounter2/16/2017, 7:37:48 PM5 votes

if you play better than your opponent and/or to your champions strengths you can always win, no matter the caliber of play

Perma CC2/15/2017, 11:09:02 PM4 votes

It's why I've decided to quit league and move to something more fun.

ScissorsNstuff2/15/2017, 11:09:43 PM3 votes

the meta isn't why you are losing to lethality comps

you are losing because its easier to conform to the meta than it is to go against it. That's why you are building tons of armor against a lethality comp and telling us nothing about what utility and team comp you were abusing.

ModCaptainMårvelous2/16/2017, 7:28:34 AM3 votes

Meta champions are just too strong compared to the others , I wish i could win bc of my skill and not bc i picked the champions riot wants me to play .

Good news: You can! If you're good enough you can climb with almost anything. Google basically any one-trick, be it NA, EU or Korean and you'll find someone climbing with that champ!

Its obvious its a commercial strat , u spam patchs notes , u make some champs op and gut some every patchs . People who want to play meta have to buy champs since PI gains from games are low .

Giant free rotation available in ranked and (at least according to gameplay) some champs are "always meta". Just unlock lee-sin and be done with it. Also yeah, totally, make some champs OP per patch. That's why we see buffs for champs like Master Yi or nerfs for champions like Yasuo and Darius. Also: Faster patch notes allow for addressing things faster in some cases. There are also cheap champs (Alistar is free, Annie is 450) who can make do in almost any meta.

Sad that Tencent is now the boss of Riot games , and since the day tencent bought riot games , it was the beginning of the end . ( Tencent own pay2win mobile games like clash royal , recently realeased " mobile legend " extremely similar to lol but champs cost 20 000 PI , its a chinese company , its only aim is to make money )

Common misconception but Tencent has fuckall to do with Riot. Any problems you see are on Riot. "But then what does Tencent do!?" You ask. Simple: They throw money at Riot and tell them to keep doing what they're doing. Even Tryndamere pointed out that any mistakes they make are on Riot, not on tencent. Side note: Since being acquired by tencent we've had ups and downs. However, in the past year, Riot has given away more free things than ever and greatly reduced the barrier for new players.

10 bans for draft or balance and bring back champs diversity , I'm tired to have to play against full lethality comps as a 300 armor and die as fast as a squishy .

10 bans are incoming. Balance/champ diversity isn't going to change to a massive degree until the playerbase accepts being balanced around diamond-to-challenger ONLY.

Dominick Destine2/16/2017, 6:22:17 AM2 votes

That has more to do with Sejuani being way overnerfed than any meta vs non-meta arguments.

NastyMcOutplay2/16/2017, 6:23:46 AM2 votes

i used to consistently win with off meta champions, still do when i play them

THE RlVER KlNG2/16/2017, 12:55:20 AM2 votes

Why play Tahm top when you can play Maokai, and why play him bot when you can pick Braum or Thresh and do twice the job

PiVoRx2/16/2017, 8:10:54 AM1 votes

I feel like Riot is not aware (or dont want to be) in how bad state some of those off-meta champions are, ive been maining Master Yi since 2 seassons, he was never a good pick but now hes just total garbage compared to top tiers, the sad part is Riot decided that hes the one deserving nerfs while Khazix and Rengar got insane buffs with removal of any counter to invisibility.

13900 Essence2/16/2017, 3:29:44 PM1 votes

Jungle is the worst role for playing off-meta champions. The new jungle is so punishing, I try playing things like kled and lose skarl to the 2nd camp. After that you are either forced to go back, die to the next camp, or sit in a lane and get skarl back.

Fiddlesticks which is regarded as an easily sustainable jg struggles in the new jungle.

notmebuthim2/16/2017, 6:19:33 AM1 votes

Yeah, I played meta champs and won 8 in a row. Played off meta and lost 6 in a row. I didn't even play really well in my 8 wins either.