Riot balance team hates all mages except LB.

His Goatliness··5 votes·595 views

They've reworked(nerfed) veig and zil recently into oblivion. I guess on the PBE cass is getting a huge nerf. LB and Ahri are basically the only two viable mages at this point because every other ap caster has no mobility in a meta that REQUIRES mobility. I just don't get it. As a mage lover why can't I have my viability back? Also, buff taric. His passive and R are horrendous.

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jDVL20eCYs4 votes

lol only ahir and lb? how come that the mages cassiopea and azir have ruled the mid lane in the pro scen last months?

WalkingInACircle3 votes

Leblanc isn't a mage. Not primarily at any rate.

His Goatliness1 votes

She's an assassin but she does all her damage as a nuke/ap. Either way that would just further prove my point. Riot hates mages.

OperationDEEZ11 votes

So, Viktor wasn't massively buffed in his rework?

CreationFlaw3 votes

Please stop. I've been able to carry games as Veigar just because I don't need to be up and close to farm anymore, I can just be 900 range back shooting Christmas trees to stack AP, and by the end of the game I'll have 1200+ AP. Zilean just requires you to hit the bombs, you even have a stun if you do. All that happened was they added an additional skill factor to both champions.. (And nerfed Veigar's R a lil, oh well)

All champions are pretty viable, to be frank. The balance team is awesome, and although they fuck up occasionally, for a game with millions of players all bitching about what they want, I think they do a good job of keeping everything even.

His Goatliness1 votes

I'm not saying they're not viable, it's just 9/10 times better to just play Cho, LB, Ahri, or an ad mid. I still enjoy playing veigar even though his E is impossible to land on someone that's paying attention. His R nerf doesn't matter because it's easier to get the ap. I just want them to add some item/items that make it easier for the non-mobile champs to be considered "good" picks. There's a reason most of the top bans are either tanks or high mobility champions.

CreationFlaw1 votes

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I'm not saying they're not viable, it's just 9/10 times better to just play Cho, LB, Ahri, or an ad mid. I still enjoy playing veigar even though his E is impossible to land on someone that's paying attention. His R nerf doesn't matter because it's easier to get the ap. I just want them to add some item/items that make it easier for the non-mobile champs to be considered "good" picks. There's a reason most of the top bans are either tanks or high mobility champions.

That makes a lot more sense, thanks! But yeah, I suppose you're right. Cho'gath is super hard to kill in lane, has ridiculous scalings, and it's pretty hard to get away from him with his 2-3 second silence. He also gets tankier and his true damage scales of AP, which is ridiculous ,-,. So yeah, I get what you mean, even if I can beat a LB, Ahri, or what not, they're still overall better picks.

OperationDEEZ12 votes

Viktor's power has been taken up several notches with his rework, it gave useful augments that gives him some of the best self peel in the whole mage class (especially with item 3025 , yes Iceborn is good on Vik.) and he kept his EXTREMELY POWERFUL E WHICH IS AOE, WHICH CAN HIT TWICE WHEN AUGMENTED. despite his ult getting a few nerfs (No silence). Also his Hexcore is an AMAZING item lategame, level 18 item 3198 it gives the second most AP out of ANY item in the game, second only to a fully stacked item 3041 (Even then it will only match the AP of Perfect Hexcore at 19 stacks) It also provides 500 mana. It gives 4654 gold worth of stats for 3000 gold. We're not even factoring in the augments to his abilities here. Also, LB is an assassin, not a mage

His Goatliness2 votes

Viktor is good, for a mage. He's still barely ever seen, because of this meta being horrible to nearly all ap champs. After void staff ap champs have no real way to counter the tank meta. Just get a bunch of hp and merc treads as a tank and you get to disregard all mages. I know because I've been playing a lot of tanks/tanky junglers recently, and it's so easy to just roll over the ap champs as you make a B-line for the champs that matter. Nowadays mages are only good for taking out the adc, and occasionally teemo top.

OperationDEEZ11 votes

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BeerOfRoot48431 votes

Be happy he's barely ever seen, or he'd get nerfed to the ground.

BluePolarizer2 votes

LMAO at mage players whining. The lowest win rate champs in the game are AD bruisers while most of the highest win rate champs are mages.

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