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I'm not saying they're not viable, it's just 9/10 times better to just play Cho, LB, Ahri, or an ad mid. I still enjoy playing veigar even though his E is impossible to land on someone that's paying attention. His R nerf doesn't matter because it's easier to get the ap. I just want them to add some item/items that make it easier for the non-mobile champs to be considered "good" picks. There's a reason most of the top bans are either tanks or high mobility champions.
That makes a lot more sense, thanks! But yeah, I suppose you're right. Cho'gath is super hard to kill in lane, has ridiculous scalings, and it's pretty hard to get away from him with his 2-3 second silence. He also gets tankier and his true damage scales of AP, which is ridiculous ,-,. So yeah, I get what you mean, even if I can beat a LB, Ahri, or what not, they're still overall better picks.