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It's time riot, to update the death recap.

His Goatliness··350 votes·10,656 views

I play this game quite a bit(a lot), and nearly every day I see something in the death recap that I think should be fixed. Whether it be an actual bug(like azir doing true damage to himself, or eve killing olaf with undertow) or just an incomplete recap(I took 1000 damage, but my recap only shows 400) It always irks me that the recap is so poorly looked after. Over the past year or so we've been getting plenty of pretty little UI changes, and I would love nothing more than to see a new death recap. I've made this thread before, but I think it was on GD and nobody cared. I've been tacking it on at the end of my posts on the forums for a while now, and would like someone to acknowledge this vastly overlooked system still in Riot's evolving game. MFW death recap is incompleteitem 3151

TL;DR Let's get the attention of some reds so we can get a new death recap, this one's pretty bad. (How this pertains to balancing-It hurts my personal gameplay experience when I don't get to see all the damage dealt to me, and can't properly build/play to counter it.)

88 Comments

Hyrum Graff87 votes

The biggest thing for me to emphasize here is that I don't care about the details.

Here are the things I want to know, after I look at the death recap:

  1. What kind of resists should I buy?
  2. Who should I be careful of?

The information I need to have in order to figure out these answers are:   #1. What % of the damage was physical/magic? #2. Who dealt it?

I understand that Riot wants to do a big, expansive overhaul of death recap that does really awesome stuff, but I'd much rather them focus those resources on other projects, and give me something simple and functional.

DUDE BRO13 votes

Would also be nice if they could at least fix this one in the meantime. I didn't take a screenshot, but here are 2 I got this week:

  1. The death recap showed Leona as the killer, assister, and other assister. Her face was displayed 3 times and the skills for the assists were error messages.

  2. After a huge teamfight in aram I died to a 120 true damage snowball, a minion had 6 damage assist, and that was it. No second assist, but it said I took 1700 damage in 3 seconds. Where did the other 1574 come from?

Totalis2 votes

this. a thousand times this.

rampaging poet2 votes

I completely agree. The Death Recap should be two pie charts with the %Damage of each type and the %Damage from each source over the past however many seconds. The total damage on each should be the same. It should be the same as the actual damage you took over that time instead of missing over half the damage that killed you. Expand with the individual abilities that dealt each type of damage or whatever on hover later, but for now at least get it usable!

Hyrum Graff2 votes

On an unrelated note, tfw you get the top comment and know that the visibility will keep getting you upvotes so you'll stay there.

Bhargo1 votes

Dawngate did death recap very well. Not only did it show you who damaged you and how much it did, but each person also showed what % of their damage came from each source (spells, autos) and also was color coordinated to tell if it was magic or physical. You could tell at a glance what was hitting you the hardest and what type of damage it was.

Hyrum Graff1 votes

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Dawngate did death recap very well. Not only did it show you who damaged you and how much it did, but each person also showed what % of their damage came from each source (spells, autos) and also was color coordinated to tell if it was magic or physical. You could tell at a glance what was hitting you the hardest and what type of damage it was.

That does sound nice. I'd like to also see something more visual, when a complete overhaul happens.

Virgin Ray1 votes

Can u tell me how u put that line under number 2?

Hyrum Graff1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kenji Chang,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EfrGL35K,comment-id=00050006,timestamp=2015-05-12T06:37:47.143+0000)

Can u tell me how u put that line under number 2?

Three dashes:

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and if you want to write three dashes without them turning into a line, like I just did, add a \ beforehand.

And for future reference: In general, if you want to find out how someone did something, the easiest way is to click the 'quote' button -- it includes their formatting marks.

Virgin Ray1 votes

Lemme try

Blackquill1 votes

Also i want the game to save the last death recap. Maybe i didn't pay attention because i was watching my team. But then i realise that it's only 2 seconds until i respawn and i can't look at my last death anymore.

Hyrum Graff1 votes

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Also i want the game to save the last death recap. Maybe i didn't pay attention because i was watching my team. But then i realise that it's only 2 seconds until i respawn and i can't look at my last death anymore.

I'd put that at tier 2 -- really nice but not strictly necessary. I do often forget to check death recap before I respawn (especially when timers are short), and it's very frustrating, but at least I feel like it was my fault. As opposed to when I look at Death Recap and it's useless, where I feel like I did the right thing and it just wasn't helpful.

Also in tier 2: "Who dealt what type of damage to me, and in what order/speed?"

Maybe Jinx is really fed, but the entire other team is AP, so if we just blow her up, I don't need to worry so much about armor. Or maybe LB is fed, but she only has one burst rotation, that I can survive with the amount of HP I have right now, so it'd be better for me to focus on other stuff.

Blackquill1 votes

In the case of this:

Or maybe LB is fed, but she only has one burst rotation, that I can survive with the amount of HP I have right now, so it'd be better for me to focus on other stuff.

It would be nice to see in which order she dealt damage to find out the play pattern of a player to counter it. Which ability did she mimik? Did she attack with the mimik first and then use other spells? etc.

Hyrum Graff1 votes

{quoted}

In the case of this:

It would be nice to see in which order she dealt damage to find out the play pattern of a player to counter it. Which ability did she mimik? Did she attack with the mimik first and then use other spells? etc.

Agreed, and this is the kind of thing I think Riot wants to do.

Unfortunately, they're taking that to mean, "Anything less than this would be a waste of our time," which is unfortunate because before I can appreciate that stuff, I need a death recap that functions, period, and for that I need the stuff in my original comment.

Blackquill1 votes

Agreed.

NorthernDruid37 votes

A functioning death recap would be great.

Currently it's so bad it's not even worth looking at most of the time.

Anidan12 votes

In my experience I've found it to be so inaccurate that I don't even open it anymore. It's a waste of time for me. It's so bad that I've developed a habit of just taking mental notes of who did what and for about how much and build resistances based in that.

That death recap is so bad it forced me to learn how to analyze much, much more than I normally would have to. Rito plz.

Rand0mH3r0X20 votes

Nerf Eve. Her 88 damage Undertow is too powerful. 51% magic damage.

Maximum Zilean12 votes

Wish I still had the screenshot of it.

But one game I was killed by item 3065

Matezoide10 votes

At this point, i would pretty much give up on a death recap fix.

Mellori5 votes

If they aren't going to fix it then they might as well get rid of it. It'd be more useful to ask for everyone stats and math it yourself. You'd probably end up with a more accurate number than what's there now.

The Ellimiist9 votes

At this point it's such a useless embarrassment that it should either be removed completely or actually fixed. In it's current state it's both useless and confusing.

FirstSergeantBim6 votes

I support this message!

I have never found the Death Recap to be helpful because it seems unintuitive, buggy and it doesn't really give me the information I want. I've never actually used the DR window in a game before. The information that is provided seems redundant and isn't useful. It would be better if the Death Recap told me:

  1. The damages I took in chronological order
  2. Impact of my resistances and my enemy's penetration/reduction

That's literally all I want to know. I don't necessarily care about who did it and what items they have in the DR window because I already have that information on hand with tab. What seems to be more useful is whether or not I was able to use an ability in time to save me (chronological order) and how much the enemy is shredding me with their penetration/reduction.

Qsario5 votes

I don't care if it's fancy. I would just like it to be accurate. If Riot wants to redo it into something awesome later, that's great. But give us a functional recap first, please.

Vistha Kai1 votes

Don't worry. First we will get working tribunal(ETA 1 year to infinity), then we will get Yorick/Eve reworks (ETA Tribunal + 5 years), next comes lore (ETA Tribunal + 15 years), then Riot will go on vacation and then they will start THINKING about fixing death recap.

Curling Veigar5 votes

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Need I post more?

Lao Fu the Tiger2 votes

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Need I post more?

LOL@minion Veigar.

Ariel the Cruel4 votes

Surprised you never died to flash.

EverTokki2 votes

He did die to revive tho. RIP Revive.

Anidan3 votes

My favorites were the Baron spell icon trying to escape its prison, and "Zephyrslamentburn"

"ZEPHYRSLAMENTBURN!!!"

A Corny Name5 votes

This is actually an ENORMOUS part of the game. I can finally explain to bronzies that they need to stop focusing the jinx going 1/10 because the 10/1 ziggs is by far out damaging him. It'll also be nice for other players in less obvious situations (like ad soraka ap jinx bot lane) and will definitely make itemization easier. Right now it just tells me that I'm playing 6k hp garen, died in 3 seconds, and the enemy maokai's sunfire tickled one of my chin hairs a little

RasCaelestis4 votes

I've got a few weird ones...

A minion once killed me with Ashe's ult, despite there being no Ashe on either team...
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/469811338439648619/796FA56EB2437B86F3FF8C50D2B9FEEFD4C8731C/

A Wukong killed me by doing nothing. I never thought he was OP, but after this...
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/469811338439655025/F017F9F84C7974155FE4B1AB3B88FE43C3F3D068/

I once did true damage to myself. I was the only Viktor in the game.
http://s7.postimg.org/cih6h7n6h/Death_Recap_Riot_Please.jpg

Another time a minion had my icon. Again, I was the only Viktor.
http://s11.postimg.org/lqzd09bn5/League_What_Kill_Self2.jpg

And this one from about a week ago... Jinx's ult did 2 damage to me. Even IF I had a lot of armor, it should do more than 2. Also, what happened to the rest of the 700+ damage that I took? Who/what dealt that?
http://s14.postimg.org/95aws6ozj/League_What_Jinx_Nerfed.jpg

AlexIsMissing3 votes

I agree with getting this feature fixed. I hate to see false reports on how I died or insufficient damage etc. At least remove the feature if you can't fix it don't give us hope of understanding number breakdowns in a simple way.

jama6553 votes

i love the true damage 2 self lol

Lytebulb3 votes

yea its so buggy. like idk how they code it where it shows that you did damage to yourself. RIOT SUPPORTS SUICIDE?

Jahsuo Onfroy3 votes

Reminds me of the BF4 death camera's...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FagjUmY3-4U

Puri Puri Taric3 votes

strife recently released death recap in their beta verion 0.91

u mad rito fan boys ? They got every thing a flow chart a % dmg meter for you to look up and the time in wich u died all in beta guys and lol was beta 5 years ago.. step up your game riot.

YOUGOTKILLEDBRO2 votes

one recap was a tryndamere killed me and it showed a picture of a dragon and weird moves that he can't use. This happened today and it appeared as an assist

manlierthanyou2 votes

Agreed.. Would LOVE to see the magic penetration and armor penetration values in a death recap...

Wrennardx2 votes

Or we could get replays, or we could get a remake feature if someone doesn't connect, or a pause feature, or any number of things we've asked for going on 4 years. But no, we get more skins, a champ every once in awhile, and millions of dollars into the LCS, sorry but quality of life changes aren't in their wheelhouse, and they haven't been from the advent of the LCS forward. Don't lose heart though... we DID get Chroma packs!

Dengeden2 votes

I think the first 2 JPGs highlight the main problem death recap has. Sometimes, it's difficult to tell where the damage came from. So either they make up where it comes from or entirely omit it. (Technically, death recap should have more than 100% damage because of health regen and the like. I imagine that makes things even more complicated) Champions with health costs like Olaf make things even worse. Something else recap has to pay attention to and since it's probably not uniquely coded for such champs ... yeah, you might be suiciding even when you can't.

FancyKiwi2 votes

I'm surprised summoner 4 didn't show in any of those deaths.

1stDragonEmperor2 votes

LOL is so full of errors even thou it's quite some years old.

Starkiller X512 votes

death recap? more like death reCRAP

OblongOtter2 votes

I've had there be no killer, and the assist went to Eve and Baron, but they were overlapping each other.

iainB852 votes

It's coming guys, and soon! Just like replays were coming soon 3 years ago!

rinsujo2 votes

Hey, guys, remember the 'achievements' tab?

Vistha Kai1 votes

A moment of silence for Achivements tab. [*]

Snail Utopia1 votes

They should also not show the combined damage from one ability, but how much the ability dealt each time it was casted on you. And example would be: Ziggs used bouncing bomb twice on you, and when you died it showed lets say 1000 damage combined. It should show you how much it dealt on both casts.

stabby himiko1 votes

Didn't even try to censor out the minion's name. MINIONS ARE PEOPLE TOO.

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