Any reason why Kalista still doesn't have a cap on her E on monsters?

LoL aint life·Aug 18, 2015·91 votes·3,453 views

Seriously, having a 1k smite just by AAing on a marksman is just plain stupid.

48 Comments

iTamsAug 18, 201528 votes

CertainlyT is probably sucking off the balance team to make them not nerf her (and Thresh)

Taylor GaylordAug 18, 20155 votes

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CertainlyT is probably sucking off the balance team to make them not nerf her (and Thresh)

Upvoted because this arouses me.

MetalGearTeemuAug 19, 20152 votes

Tresh is like Orianna, you can nerf him into being "Not Fotm" but he'll show up ant every high level tournament because his kit is that good.

Ori's on tack to be played in every worlds she's existed for, thats a track record no other mid that old ( to my knowledge) can attest to.

TurquoiseYoshiAug 18, 201528 votes

Well she trades it for low mobil- OH WAIT!

Well, she trades both of those for a lack of CC- OH WAIT!

Well, she trades all three for bad lani- OH WAIT!

CasterGilgameshAug 18, 20157 votes

she trades all this for the fact that most of the other adcs can out duel her in short skirmishes

TurquoiseYoshiAug 18, 20157 votes

But she can just kite backwards, slow with Rend, and get away. In any case, an ADC who can teamfight amazingly, but is weak to duels, is not all that bad.

CubedJusticeAug 18, 20152 votes

And has ridiculous objective control, and nice waveclear.

Meeks011Aug 18, 20152 votes

Except you have a support 90% of the game to get a 1-2 seconds knockup. You can easily kill them in that time alone.

IntakiNineAug 18, 20154 votes

If you let a squishy marksman sit on a neutral objective forever you lose the right to complain when they take it.

FlippyGoneTrippyAug 19, 20151 votes

5 people attacking dragon. You are the jungler. Your entire team is dead. You want to steal dragon. Kalista is attacking it. Plan?

Mindworm JimAug 19, 20151 votes

I'm pretty sure the plan in that situation is: "Don't go near the dragon because it's utter suicide." And if you replace Kalista with any other champion in the game that does not change.

FlippyGoneTrippyAug 19, 20151 votes

Er how? Smite drag flash out; done it 100 times. Even if they follow you I think a death is worth a dragon steal.

Thank you for completely missing my point though. --->You can't outsmite a Kalista<--

Stereo DreamerAug 19, 20151 votes

LeeSin : Challenge accepted.

FlippyGoneTrippyAug 19, 20151 votes

Q Dragon, Ult Kalista, Smite, W Over wall. I WANNA SEE IT

IntakiNineAug 20, 20151 votes

Why do you feel like you deserve a chance at killing an important neutral objective when all your teammates are dead and you didn't even manage to kill one of theirs? Why were you not at dragon first? If you were, why did you allow the enemy team to out-position you and push you off?

In the scenario given, Kalista is just the cherry on top of the ass kicking sundae your team got served by superior opponents.

FlippyGoneTrippyAug 19, 20154 votes

This. I don't think Kalista is broken or OP or whatever. I just can't figure out much damage her fucking rend does and I don't think I have ever stolen a dragon from one.

RetillinAug 19, 20151 votes

If you stole a dragon from a Kalista it means she fucked up. You can't out play her, if her team has position, and steal dragon/baron. It means if her team is snowballing you lost the neutral objectives hands down. So if you are a jungler, just ban her every time you can.

CressaliaAug 18, 20153 votes

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DrCyanideAug 18, 201520 votes

You can shut down Kalista pretty early with some hard CC.

What ADC's don't you shut down pretty early with some hard CC?

CubedJusticeAug 18, 20156 votes

Actually, what champion don't you shut down with CC?

ZonkmanAug 19, 20158 votes

Olaf

SerlthreeAug 19, 20153 votes

Kayle Poppy Olaf Fiora Morgana Nocturne Sivir can all counter hard cc

MidnightpandaAug 19, 20151 votes

I've seen Sivir CCd from 100% to 0 Plenty of times.

She can counter 1 cc ability every few seconds which is amazing, but Sivir does not counter hard CC.

Voluug13Aug 19, 20152 votes

Kayle CANT counter CC, in fact she can be stunned while ulting herself. So she actually is weak to CC because it makes her Ult get wasted while CC'ed.

Fiora , Nocturne and Sivir cant counter cc either. They block one spell and that is it. And the shield lasts for 1-1.5s.

Poppy is also weak to CC and kiting too, which is why she HAS to ult the enemy with least CC, because if you Ult the ADC they can just kite or selfpeel/outduel her.

Morgana and Olaf are the only ones that really apply for this, and only for a short time.

WooBeeWooAug 19, 20151 votes

Kayle doesn't counter cc she counters damage with her ult. In fact to beat her ult you need to cc her during it.....

LionelLeonAug 18, 20153 votes

Kalista loses to bursty adcs because her damage source is her rend and she doesn't usually build crit. She's a utility carry, slows the whole team, she needs an oath sworn to do her ult, her W gives vision and she synchronizes well with supports. But she can't 1v1 anyone who is bursty or equally fed. Kalista, jinx and sivir are priority picks in the lcs because they have a big impact in teamfights. Kalista is slightly overpowered and should remain the same

kile147Aug 18, 20153 votes

I think that would be a perfectly fair niche mechanic on a marksmen without many other unique things about them. Kalista is not that marksmen.

ipressonebuttonAug 19, 20152 votes

Honestly I feel like if you let her stack that much into baron or dragon then that's entirely you're fault. Everyone acts like she can instantly stack 1k damage when in fact takes her a good while.

ConnceptAug 19, 20152 votes

Any reason why Kallista exists at all? Seriously, how did that passive make it to live? It shouldn't have even made it to testing, whoever suggested it should have been laughed to scorn and put in the corner with a dunce cap on the very second they vocalized the idea.

And if it ever even made it to testing It should have been on a melee, in fact, I'm just going to outright say it, it should have been put on Fiora , that would have made THE most amazing fencer gameplay you could possibly accomplish in LoLs game engine.

Binxy PrimeAug 19, 20151 votes

I upvoted you, then read the rest of your post then downvoted, then thought about it and changed it to an upvote again, that actually would have been a really cool fiora passive. It would be kind of unwieldy though, if you every auto and back out its going to be hard to close on them again.

FooDangAug 20, 20152 votes

There is a cap on rend. it's determined by her attack speed...

KVbqbFsC8eAug 18, 20151 votes

Nope, at least not any logical reason.

ElegantDogeAug 18, 20151 votes

I totaly agree.I mean seriously...it gives an unfair advantage to Kalista's team for Baron and Dragon.

Guy Fox TeemoAug 19, 20151 votes

Thats like saying its an unfair advantage that cho'gath can just ult dragon or baron.

ElegantDogeAug 19, 20151 votes

Her E outdamage chogath ultimate...

FlippyGoneTrippyAug 19, 20151 votes

I disagree because Chogath has a flat damage number on his ultimate. I at least cannot predict how much damage Kalista's rend is going to do.

Guy Fox TeemoAug 19, 20152 votes

You actually can predict, since you can see the amount of spears in said target. And considering that you know kalistas base damages and scalings you could do the math but :P Thats not very helpful as it takes to long

FlippyGoneTrippyAug 19, 20151 votes

Exactly lol . Maybe if there were some indicator as to how much damage Kalista's rend is going to do...

PoisonedTeaAug 19, 20151 votes

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I totaly agree.I mean seriously...it gives an unfair advantage to Kalista's team for Baron and Dragon.

only if they get there first.

Karn BishopAug 18, 20151 votes

I always have to kill her before i start an objective, even 5-6 spears can outdamage my smite unless I'm running chogath.

BorgamagosAug 18, 20151 votes

its called play draft and ban kalista.... play tristana against her simple as that

Diananmen SquareAug 19, 20151 votes

We would ban if we had more than 3 bans. I can't leave Shyvana unbanned, come on.

RisurinAug 19, 20151 votes

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Seriously, having a 1k smite just by AAing on a marksman is just plain stupid.

so she can secure baron for her team ? Like thats the reason, you even acknowledge it ?

WooBeeWooAug 19, 20151 votes

Yeah this is one of the dumbest things in this game right now. ADCs are already the most important part of teamfights and objective control including baron and dragon. But now one of them can beat smite.... really really stupid and convoluted aspect of this game. Absolutely no reason this should exist every jungler in the game has a cap on damage that is similar. Riot says they don't do this but they LOVE and I mean LOOOOOVE re enforcing ADCs as the fucking kings of the game. Period.

CoolKnightSTAug 19, 20151 votes

I guess riot want to keep her objective controle. But if they keep that she should be nerfed on another area. Remove the slow from her E & maybe move it to her souls or something.

Prospector PeteAug 19, 20151 votes

I have a pretty good idea for a cap Kalista could have against jungle monsters. How about the cap is the amount of damage the enemy jungler's smite does?