Zac Buff? Poll/Please Read.

Fat Bastard GOD··1 votes·361 views

Does he need a buff? I feel like his passive is relatively weak, it isn't very rewarding and at the least it makes him cost less. The sustain of his passive with a Spirit Visage heals him for less than a quarter of his max HP. That's if he picks up all 6 of his blobs from his ult combo (ERWQ). Sure he could EWQRW with max CDR but still, his sustain isn't nearly as good as Mundo. His Q feels pathetic, in general it feels like a bad ability. It's a mid-short range slow that has some pretty horrible stats. His W is fine thanks to its spammy %max HP damage. His E is fantastic thanks to its insane range and great damage. His R is awesome, and it really doesn't need any changes in my book. Also, his top lane is awful compared to his jungling...

Overall, his passive sustain isn't very rewarding, and his Q is quite pathetic. Most of the power in his kit is in his E/R, and W for jungle clearing. His Q is a soft CC and nothing more. What are your opinions on Zac?

EDIT - I am very suprised so many people are saying his doesn't need any buff. Hmm...

10 Comments

Illiad2 votes

His passive shines more in the constant healing he can get from his combo through picking up the globs, the revive aspect is just nice during a teamfight or a dive. He can duel any champ if played right. you just need to learn to :D gl!

Fat Bastard GOD1 votes

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His passive shines more in the constant healing he can get from his combo through picking up the globs, the revive aspect is just nice during a teamfight or a dive. He can duel any champ if played right. you just need to learn to :D gl!

I'm not sure if he is a great duelist... I guess you're right about his sustained heal, not bursty heal. Either way I still don't find his healing that noticeable.

legionnaire991 votes

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I'm not sure if he is a great duelist... I guess you're right about his sustained heal, not bursty heal. Either way I still don't find his healing that noticeable.

try playing him full ap now that bursty

Nanuk Pihoqahiak1 votes

He's great as a duelist because of the new tank tree. The healing increase along with Grasp of The Undying make him a nightmare to push out of lane. The only champions that'd have a good shot are ranged ones since they could poke him early on before he can leverage an advantage.

LaughingMan112 votes

Zac is honestly in a really good spot, imo he shines so much more in the jungle than he does in lane. Most of his damage from his kit is actually his W, max that first if you're in lane, second if you're in jungle (max E first if you're jungling) You can carry pretty hard once you get some beef going for you because they cant do much about you.

Fat Bastard GOD1 votes

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Zac is honestly in a really good spot, imo he shines so much more in the jungle than he does in lane. Most of his damage from his kit is actually his W, max that first if you're in lane, second if you're in jungle (max E first if you're jungling) You can carry pretty hard once you get some beef going for you because they cant do much about you.

Oh I know how to play Zac pretty well. His playstyle is great and his kit is super smooth. I've carried a multitude of games with him thanks to his awesome kit. I just want his Q to be a bit stronger, and his passive sustain isn't feel all that strong.

Yeah his ganking and CC is AWESOME but he isn't as tanky as some champs. His Q and passive are a bit lack luster. Besides that I agree he is in a great spot.

LaughingMan111 votes

Honestly he gets super tanky, it could be your build/runes/masteries that are the issue. My Zac build has like 4.5k-5k HP and 180~ - 200~ in each resist. His Q is more utility to keep on people than it is for anything else, and his healing is actually really good in tandem with SV. I also feel like if he got buffed at all in anyway he'd be Pick/Ban, and then i'd never get to play him.

Meep Man1 votes

Zac is pretty solid right now, just isn't currently in the spotlight. His engage is incredible with not so shabby damage and tankiness.

Kaioko1 votes

Maybe I'm just a terrible top laner - but I find him very oppressive to play against as a melee top laner unless I pick a strong early game bully.

RogueWill1 votes

I don't see many Zac around but when I see one I start thinking how to shut him down since I know he is going to be a pain. You can't compare his sustain to mundo because he brings far more utility to the table than mundo, Mundo pays for his sustain by being unable to provide any kind of utility. And as for his top being bad, can you sincerely tell me a tank (a true tank and not a juggernaut) that is far more effective on top than it is on the jungle? Because the only ones I can think of are maybe naut,hec and mao and quite frankly their jungle is quite strong as well, so in general tanks do bad on top so zac being an exception wouldn't make much sense

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