Strongly feel that black cleaver is overtuned. Could use some reasonable nerfs.

Moriss··1 votes·311 views

This is just for starters. 12 stacks and given the melee/ranged treatment. Build up 2 stacks for melee source and 1 for ranged.

I don't care for it being as powerful as it currently is. It's rivaling triforce as the best ad item in the game and at a lower cost.

I greatly feel its one of the reasons jayce/graves/lucian are all overpowered atm. It's basically an item that says lets start an unfair fight.

For an item that allows you to shred 30% of the enemys total armor along with Ad, CDR, mobility and health. It seems way too good as a solo item. I would also argue that because of the frequency of its purchase it's very easily invalidating other item build paths and playstyles. No other playstyle lets you do this and frankly it's been the strongest for a while now.

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DarkRitual2 votes

BC isn't the problem, it's item 3142 followed by item 3071 and item 3156 Just way too many good stats for ranged champs on a build that is intended more for melee assassins.

Zero Skill Tank1 votes

BC intended for assassins. OK.

DarkRitual1 votes

True, it was intended for juggernauts, but is still fine on an assassin. The other two have definately been more Assassin focused, with Maw being a common quasi-defensive item for other classes as well.

Zero Skill Tank1 votes

True, it was intended for juggernauts, but is frequently abused by assassins.

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Flaherty1 votes

LOL at lucian being op and graves actually building it. It's honestly fine, nerfing it would nerf so many champions that don't need to be nerfed

Warpes1 votes

ya, no.

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