ranged tops have to go

aspects1··4 votes·1,122 views

title pretty much ranged tops just hella screw up team comps because then only 2 roles can really play a tank, and if you do go a tank top vs ranged, you end up becoming literally useless, and having a very unfun experience overall.

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Sir Fuzzi3 votes

Ranged tops tend to function far better as such than they do as proper ranged (mid or bot). They're top because they satisfy the niche. They're good against picks like Darius and Garen who tend to pick better fights when it stays closer to them. Meanwhile, a ranged top like Quinn has a bit more room to act against them and a few more resources to use against them. Contrarily, they'd probably just feel under-ranged and out-poked anywhere else, as well as probably not having either the CC or the burst to hack it in either role (where they're likely relied upon for one or the other).

I think they have a niche. Besides, isn't Yasuo popular? Wouldn't he have an easy time with ranged tops since he can wind wall them? Others like Blitz and Naut can force the fight, too, which will put ranged at a disadvantage since they tend to rely on fairly protracted moves (again calling to mind Quinn).

aspects11 votes

i see your point, but i want to emphasize how unfun it is for the person who is playing the tank. if you pick darius for example, and then the enemy picks quinn, your just going to have a horrible and unfun laning phase and late game since you are going to be super underfarmed, and in general, the entire game is just going to be a negative experience for you

ForgivenSoul1 votes

not necessarily. i've played darius against teemo's several time. it's just a matter of how you play the game. i let him push hang out at my tower and try not to engage him unless i'm getting a gank. take as little harass as possible and build defensive. rush a spirit visage and just destroy him after that. it's slower to get to the point you can fight them but it's not impossible.

aspects11 votes

theres a problem tho when you rely that heavily on your jungle

koreansmurf87511 votes

no its called "counterplay" ranged top will always be a thing, the question is how well you can deal with it

Dêcoy1 votes

Have you ever played against Jax, Fiora, Riven or Irelia? Like, that's definition of "Unfun Experience", when you can't come close to minion or you get instastunned and 80% of your HP is gone before CC ends. Tell me how fun that shit is.

Erockandroll2 votes

Your complaining about Ranged top laners because you wanted a tank?

Gnar : Why can't we have both?

aspects11 votes

gnar is a special kind of evil....

khorney1 votes

and who cares

aspects12 votes

anyone who wants to play either a tank top, or someone who wants to have a tank in their team comp. honestly, your jungle is prob gonna go either rengar or khazix or lee sin, so that really only leaves the support to play a tank, and if they dont, well you have a tankless comp

khorney1 votes

umm yes you can, no one is stopping you..... there are tankless comps.... ever heard of a poke comp? and who cares. i would ratehr have you play a champ you can play vices being forced into a champ you picked due to what we call champion selecting them( looking up counters)

aspects12 votes

first of, its a problem that tanks are not in comps when there are tankless comps in LCS second of, many many people main tanks, and now they are forced to play a different role, and therefore are not playing a champ they are good at third off: *rather

khorney1 votes

and again who is forcing you to not play a champ you want ? also lcs is lcs and are a 5 man premade with strategy. its not my issue your champion pool consist of say 3 champs. also whats urgot and kennen and jayce? ohh wait there all ranged champs

Silly Neeko1 votes

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first of, its a problem that tanks are not in comps when there are tankless comps in LCS second of, many many people main tanks, and now they are forced to play a different role, and therefore are not playing a champ they are good at third off: *rather

First off* second off* you are welcome grammar nazi with the rather :p

Anyways, ive beat ranged tops with tanks. Takes a bit to get used to, but it can be done. Ive won vs a vayne top as tahm kench..... Ranged tops need all the gold they can get due to hefty ad items. Deny them it if you can and harrass them when you can. Your a tank. Get in their face and go "BOO!

aspects11 votes

not a lot of tanks have that instant gap close necessary to deal with ranged tops

Takazaki1 votes

what is swain and lad mid? their are bruiser mids

Dêcoy1 votes

Melee tops have to go

melee tops just hella screw up team comps because you basically have to pick something that isn't squishy, and if you do go a squishy top vs melee top, you end up becoming literally useless, and having a very unfun experience overall.

Darius Irelia Illaoi Gnar Garen Fiora JarvanIV KledPantheon Renekton Tryndamere Yorick Yasuo MonkeyKingJax Riven

I will keep playing ranged tops, because that's basically ONLY way to be able to do something against bullshit champions like Yasuo, Fiora or Irelia. So yeah, go cry somewhere else, Ranged tops are here to stay.

aspects11 votes

but yas fio and irelia are like some of the few champs that will perform better against a ranged top.... someone like Darius is more vulnerable because he has no gapclose

Silly Neeko1 votes

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but yas fio and irelia are like some of the few champs that will perform better against a ranged top.... someone like Darius is more vulnerable because he has no gapclose

Then he was counter picked against. Blitzcrank is next to useless against a good morgana. Same with braum. Counterpicks happen and if there was no counter, there would be more of them. Then again, i absolutely hate darius as well so you kinda shoot yourself in the foot by making a comment about you playing him :p

aspects11 votes

i dont play him :) he was just i convenient example i dont even play top actually, i play jungle

Silly Neeko1 votes

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i dont play him :) he was just i convenient example i dont even play top actually, i play jungle

Lol, well still, darius is a jerk. He deserves every vayne bolt that hits his face.

aspects11 votes

but vayne is more of a jerk (my personal least favorite champion) and deserves every axe that hits her face

Silly Neeko1 votes

Nah, vayne doesnt deserve it lol, she has to be fairly squishy to do decent damage, and if the enemy predicts her well enough they know exactly where she is.... I mean really, not that hard lol. As i said, ive beat her with tahm kench. Immobile little toad, but can take a hit well enough to kill her

aspects11 votes

1 thing to say: %hp true damage much counterplay

Dêcoy1 votes

...So basically you wont Riot to remove counter picks for your champion, because you don't like it?

What are u, bronze? O.o

aspects11 votes

i dont even play top lol i play jungle jokes on you :)

Kitty Hole1 votes

My first time playing Jax, i get to play against this little bastard. Teemo It was totally fair.

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