Lifesteal and Yasou countering

aivis123·Jul 23, 2017·1 votes·407 views

so..tonight i played Poppy top vs Yasou top and Nasus top vs yasuo top..both yasuo had lifesteal. With poppy i could take him down in 1 of 5 times(usualy i threw him away with R) Poppy needs a little help..a small buff for tankiness(her passive is best thing for her. in lvl18 i usualy have 800hp as shield). and match with ..yasuo harrased and bullied me all game. in 20 mins i had only 91 stacks and i had like 0 ganks and i got told that i am noob..well i kinda am but it was my and jungler fault(he saw that i was bullied all the time and didnt do a thing)

my idea here is. Nerf down Lifesteal to maximum 35% lifesteal for a single champoin. Lifesteal with high damage is so broken right now against tanks. I made full tank build. all items were chosen for scariest tank in match..but i got kited by 50% or more lifesteal and i lost. He just ripped of my health bar and took for himself. Yasou needs to be balanced..so remove he's shield so he can get damage from beginning of the trade or increase E cool down so he cant escape so fast and he can't engage as fast. he has all what you need to be a lane bully and harraser but no one can counter him. can counter him normaly or with that hard CC poke in a face but he has that damn shield

what do you think? Yasou is a bit OP and unbalanced against others? And is limiting lifesteal a fair thing? I think it is fair, so tanks can actualy kill not just be a big giant meat ball for enemy ADC to eat in 5 seconds with 50%lifesteal while you're adc or mage is away somewhere

if anyone know a idea for countering yasou AND lifesteal..pls i beg you to show

7 Comments

TheDesoIationJul 23, 20172 votes

item 3076 Literally they added a 900g counter to autoattack lifesteal champions...

Spicy RiceJul 23, 20171 votes

Lifesteal ain't the problem here, as both Nasus and poppy rip through yas if you play the lane properly.

Brutalitops01Jul 23, 20171 votes

item 3076 : Hey there guys, I'm a 900 gold counter to lifesteal designed for tanks.

item 3075 : And I'm his big brother. We have Grievous Wounds on us now, so build us if you need to stop Yasuo. His Q counts as an auto attack, and therefore does our damage to him as well as putting Grievous Wounds on him, which halves his healing. Buy him first back, then a Frozen Heart or Iceborn Gauntlet or someone, then upgrade him to me and I can guarantee you will never die to him again as long as you can stop him from ulting you.

ModWulf HelhammerJul 23, 20171 votes

Also item 3143 is pretty much necessary against Yasuo

Handy Sandy Jul 23, 20171 votes

is yasuo even still considered op anymore

Agent CorgiJul 23, 20171 votes

Poppy : Poppy has an Ability that is essentially the Middle Finger to Yasuo on her [W]. You'd wait for him to dash in (orif he gets too close), Activate [W] & watch him bounce off an Invisible Wall. You can hit him with a [Q] Here & maybe even fight him since he can't really get away (This works in the earlier stages of the game). As the game progresses (This applies to Nasus & just about every Tank in general), you might want Randuin's Omen item 3143 . This will reduce his Crit Damage by 20%, give you the Cold Steel Passive which reduces Attacker's ATK Speed by 15% & a good amount of Armor/HP to boot. You also get an Active that creates an AoE Slow around you, which is good for teamfights. I generally rush this against Champions who rush Crit since it's a super useful item in the event there's a champion or two on the enemy team relying on Crit Chance. Ninja Tabi item 3047 is another really good early buy as well as it blocks 10% damage done through Auto attacks and gives you armor.

Nasus ": As for Nasus, I generally don't know much about him so I can't say much. In hard matchups, you'll most likely be farming under your turret with your [Q] for most of the game & pray that your jungler ganks. After a while, you'll eventually scale assuming that you've gotten the Gold needed to purchase items. item 3078 / item 3025 are generally what Nasus players buy first since they can really make use of the Sheen Passive. Against Yasuo, I myself would most likely get sheen & try getting Iceborn if I'm losing or Triforce if for some reason I'm winning. If I'm losing hard, I'd still get the sheen, but rush out Randuin's. Again I don't know much about Nasus, but that's as much advice I could give you about him against Yasuo.

As for countering Lifesteal: As a Tank, item 3076 / item 3075 will reduce the Healing done via Life steal (If they're auto-attack reliant) & also gives you the Cold Steel passive. Generally, I'd only get this if they're rushing Sustain items (basically anything with item 1053 as a component) or if they have some kind of Innate sustain such as Garen Darius Illaoi Nasus . If against say Vladimir or Swain , you'd want to get MR as soon as you can. item 3065 would be a decent buy, but also consider item 3194 if against Swain as most of his damage is DoT (Damage over Time). As a Mage, item 3165 will get the job done. However as a Toplane Mage, I'd refrain from getting it unless I can afford to have damage (Winning lane).