Daily reminder Janna is at a 54% win rate with 15% play rate

Also Nami, Nami has CC for the adc to get free kills, and a giant knockup for her entire team, Also heals, ms buffs, and aa buffs. and a Slow on the AA buff

She needs an overhaul. She is too effective for a 0-risk champion; not even gonna mention the new items on her. Soraka atleast "has" to go in and land her Q so she can sustain, but Janna can just sit back and spam E on her teammate before they take damage, rather than afterwards. A free 1300g+ in stats on top of that pushes her far far over the edge.

I'd argue that her win-rate is actually because most of the people who play her actually know wth they're doing. Yes, she's got strong synergy with any marksman, but she also has strong synergy with most mages, a lot of assassins, and even some tanks and fighters. There are a handful of other champs who have similar levels of synergy (Nautilus can peel for almost anyone, Nami's got similar synergy to Janna except with a heal instead of a shield, Sona's got more utility without the easy peel), but she's got an odd kit that's not easy for most people to play, so unless you have either zero net interaction outside of shielding stuff and occasionally landing a Q or you actually know what you're doing and can play her in the middle of a team-fight safely, you're not going to do well.

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I'm gonna give a really unpopular opinion here. Janna is the single most nerfed champion in LoL history.

That's not an opinion, that's fact.

This is true, Janna's specialty is providing peel, which makes her always work at her best when paired up with a marksman, even more so in solo queue, where marksmen are more liable to take risks. However, some of her power bleeds into effects that don't really relate to peel, namely the AD on her shield, which is more of an aggressive buff, her personal movement speed bonus, which allows her to outpace even melee champions with persistent mobility, and the (albeit minor) very long-ranged damage on her Q, which gives her a small amount of poke. In a League where many fighters and marksmen are singled out for having overloaded kits, Janna similarly has a massively loaded toolbox of abilities, and is likely at least partially responsible for setting the precedent for do-everything supports such as Lulu, Nami, Sona and Thresh. Whereas Lee Sin engineered a meta where, for a time at least, every new jungler had to be overloaded to compete with him, Janna likely did the same for supports, and is still among the top picks to this day.

While there's some room to work with if Janna ever gets nerfed, I don't think gutting her should really be the way to go, since she's a well-loved and mostly healthy champion. Rather, the better solution might instead to make Janna more specialized, and take out some of her less peel-related tools, e.g. her shield AD, in exchange for more appropriate power. For example, increasing her Q knockup if she charges it for longer would allow her to set up defensive traps, without making her too good at aggressive CC, and having her shield push its target at their attack range from their attack target with each basic attack would preserve its autoattack-based theme, while making it work instead as better self-peel (it would make orbwalking easier), which would also synergize with her innate.

True, but one thing you messed up:

Janna isn't dependent on the adc role as a class. Just the strongest adcs in the marksman class. The stronger the most picked adcs are in the game, the stronger Janna becomes by proxy. No one cares about the lower strength ones because they're rarely gonna show up anyway. Just means Caitlyn is stupid strong atm.

Classic gameplay trash reply relating any issues to adc. I bet you sucking on a dick is because an adc made you do it right?

Dear gods, you just might be on to something there, friend...

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Is that.......... is that logic on the boards??????????????????? Grab two of each animal and head for the border! the end is nigh

Actually, if you really think Supporting with Janna in low elo is easy then you're delusional.

I mean yeah you can only use E and R like anyone else could but if your team is behind (i mean you're not winning every game to be required to just spam E and R) then you are not winning if you're an idiot and don't know how Janna works or what works best with her kit in terms of itemization.

...Janna still has damage left in her kit after all those nerfs? I'm surprised she even has base AD at this point.

Better rework Ryze.

Not me, I still enjoy seeing in the state she's in now, because unlike a lot of other people, I still clearly remember the abomination she once was.

I don't think Braum and Sona are real counters to Janna...

Except that a strategy like that only works reliably in low ELO. You try that against a platinum or higher bot lane, you're almost certainly going to get your ass handed to you.