Ok, seriously, please explain the support Items changes to me again...

Raoul··2 votes·334 views

So as far as I got it, laners were abusing the support items for extra income.

And to change that RIOT... made the first tiers of the items even MORE valuable by giving them free wards while just deleting the Tier 3 versions that non-supports never bothered with anyway?

Sorry but... WHAT?

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InTheory4 votes

So as far as I got it, laners were abusing the support items for extra income.

The current health nerf is not in relation to that but becuase of the domination of tank supports in the current meta (don't ask me about my opinion). The abuse cases is something different that is going to be looked at within the next 2 or 3 patches.

And to change that RIOT... made the first tiers of the items even MORE valuable by giving them free wards

Nope. They changed it because support players wanted to have better ability to opt into real items rather then the sight stone. Both things don't have anything to do with each other.

while just deleting the Tier 3 versions that non-supports never bothered with anyway?

They were going to bring back these items in form of full items. Twin shadows is already back on PBE, shurelia#s reverie is next and (most likely) old FotM somewhen later.

Please don't confuse different aspects of support changes with missing context. It is not the way you thought it is.

Infernape2 votes

If it's any consolation, the tank support items are being olafed because top laners are abusing it.

Raoul3 votes

Well, time to make support autofill only again I guess...

SwiftKitten881 votes

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Well, time to make support autofill only again I guess...

honestly as a support secondary i HATE these changes losingitem 3312 is a huge slap to the face and almost as bad is losing the 20% item cdr on ruby sightstone.

Pokemonred2001 votes

Well, Twin Shadows is coming back to replace item 3312 next patch, so at least we have that to look forward to.

Riot also said Shurelya's Reverie is coming back to replace item 3306 within due time as well (which IIRC he said was going to be 8.6), but we're not getting a replacement for item 3309.

I feel like all of this shit was rushed, and if we weren't going to do it with preseason, it should've waited until midseason instead of coming out of the blue after the season had already started.

SwiftKitten881 votes

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Well, Twin Shadows is coming back to replace item 3312 next patch, so at least we have that to look forward to.

Riot also said Shurelya's Reverie is coming back to replace item 3306 within due time as well (which IIRC he said was going to be 8.6), but we're not getting a replacement for item 3309.

I feel like all of this shit was rushed, and if we weren't going to do it with preseason, it should've waited until midseason instead of coming out of the blue after the season had already started.

twin shadows has 60 ap and would be my new item 3312 and now instead of getting ruby sightstone with 500 hp and 20% item cdr and the speed boost on item 3312 i get my new "eye of frost" which is 15 ap... and upgrading it is complete trash..

Infernape1 votes

Not going to lie. I never bothered building any of them. I used to go for the Eye of X items. I'd rather have a free item slot over an active effect.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Junglers like Evelynn & top lane Vlad were building Frost Queen Claim, of which aside abusing the gold income, but also for the active.

Top lane Nasus occasionally builds Talisman of Ascension for the AoE speed boost, along with the income abusal.

Done251 votes

It's really sad what they're doing to the support items. The HP one was pretty much the only one of the three worth actually finishing.

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