i find sustain tanks such as voli attrox and trundle to be very hard to deal with as an ad champ especially a melee ad champ could we get an ad item that gives grievous wounds maybe make it a tanky item with not much damage or something if you dont want adcs to have that power but it would really help ad champs if they could pick up an item like that
pripustas2 votesAatrox and Trundle aren't tanks. They're bruisers. They are supposed to shit on melee's. That's all they're good for. Also Aatrox is weak as it is, he needs a big buff or a rework, so it would just destroy him further.
JAGMAG1 votesi count them as tanks because yes they are technically bruisers but with the sustain they have it makes them harder to kill then most tanks but even as an adc its hard to deal with a trundle since he is so hard to kill and not as easy to kite as other melees
pripustas1 votesSo you want to be able to kite everyone? Pick Kalista.
JAGMAG1 votesno i just dont want someone to beable to survive over 10 autos from me as adc
pripustas1 votesBut you (ADC, APC) can survive, and kill an assassin 1x1? 10 autos isn't that much. ADC and APC have too much survivability already. Their items HAVE to be nerfed. It's not fair that a full AD marksmen can survive an assassin's burst, and then proceed to killing him while getting all the health back. It's not fair that a full AP champion can survive an assassins' burst with all the shields and invincibility from items, and then burst that assassin as fast as he does. Riot HAS to get their heads out of their butts.
JAGMAG1 votesBut you (ADC, APC) can survive, and kill an assassin 1x1? 10 autos isn't that much. ADC and APC have too much survivability already. Their items HAVE to be nerfed. It's not fair that a full AD marksmen can survive an assassin's burst, and then proceed to killing him while getting all the health back. It's not fair that a full AP champion can survive an assassins' burst with all the shields and invincibility from items, and then burst that assassin as fast as he does. Riot HAS to get their heads out of their butts.
what game are you playing? as an assassin i have zero problem poping an enemy adc even the super mobile corki its just about timing
pripustas1 votesWhat champion are you playing? Because I can't do that with Talon. And yes, I get off all skills, and a couple of AA's.
Phife1 votesRiot just needs to rewrite his Q code and make his E not so .... how do i say this, uhh >.
He can get CC'd before he even gets into the air on his Q, its not fluid at all. he should go untargetable for a half a second or something... they just need to fix his Q.
pripustas1 votesYes, and it should be instant if you want to cast it where you stand, gradually increasing in cast time the more distance he travels
ShuffledPancake1 votesOr you could play Mf/varus or bring ignite =_=
JAGMAG1 votesvarus si only if they stand on your e and mf.....just no plus thats only two ad champs out of allot of ad champs
lB2kGRlc8y1 votesSustain is the only legitimate counter to vayne though
JAGMAG1 votesstill thou how are any of the other adcs supposed to deal with them?
lB2kGRlc8y1 votesMaybe they should rely on a mage on their team to build morello. Being the AD carry doesn't mean you're supposed to cover every single aspect of the game, that was the case in DotA only because auto attacks were the only scaling damage form, and people could literally buy immunity to an entire damage type and its effects. Past that ignite is something everyone can grab, basically its up to team building, if you see they have a mundo or swain and you have no mages that build morellos, that oversight's on you, not the game.
JAGMAG1 votesMaybe they should rely on a mage on their team to build morello. Being the AD carry doesn't mean you're supposed to cover every single aspect of the game, that was the case in DotA only because auto attacks were the only scaling damage form, and people could literally buy immunity to an entire damage type and its effects. Past that ignite is something everyone can grab, basically its up to team building, if you see they have a mundo or swain and you have no mages that build morellos, that oversight's on you, not the game.
but why? why are all apc allowed ot have it but only select ads are
lB2kGRlc8y1 votesbut why? why are all apc allowed ot have it but only select ads are
Because APCs don't have a decent % damage item, BotRK overshadows Linadry's in every possible manner, so its almost as if the ADCs were given the % damage, and the APCs were given the sustain reduction.
EndlessSorcerer1 votesIIRC, Riot is currently trying to remove Grievous Wounds from the game (with the possible exception of Ignite).
Once Grievous Wounds has been removed, healing effects no longer have to be balanced around a debuff halving them. This would allow Riot to rebalance healing effects to no longer be lackluster when halved but too powerful when unmitigated.