have an idea for helping new players

JAGMAG··47 votes·3,132 views

ok this system would take a bit of work to implement but here it is

Make a "game mode" were people can que up to be coached/coach *select what it is you want help on/ Select what you feel you can coach

  • Game matches you together in a pregame chat room before launching into que
  • Play the game together with the coaches main purpose being to watch and offer tips/advice *have a rating system at the end of game just a simple "was this coach helpful" "Did they seem willing to learn" kind of thing *Gives coaches a rating system to help with matching *If you get banned for behavior in this que its permanently locked

just an idea

62 Comments

Transgressor5 votes

A coach system? In a game that doesn't even have a sandbox mode, a robust replay system, customizable UI elements(or UI skins altogether), has had the same in-game announcer since forever, has no actual punishment/reward system other than some bull%%%% automated %%%% with a big margin error.

Did you know, Smite, a moba that released last freaking year, has a mastery system that rewards you with multiple unlockable skins you can pay with in-game currency(and not real money) and icons that are free? In fact, each character in the game has 3 skins you can unlock through mastery, 3 %%%%ing skins.

Did you know, League Of Legends, who became the benchmark of Moba's, has the biggest E-sports scene in the world(not reward-size), has existed for 5 years, has the largest playerbase to ever exist in PC-gaming and the largest number of online players to ever play a multiplayer game, rewards your mastery with just an emote and a number that goes from 1-7(5-7 soon to be implemented lol)?

But I digress, I think they are utterly incompetent to handle anything important that would benefit the game. Much less a coaching system that would benefit player experience. Only things one can do revolve around doing them by oneself: an educational youtube channel/blog/post or what have you. You could also advertise your coaching by creating chatrooms for people looking for coaching to join. Then joining games with them, connected with voicechat, to teach them the game.

Amazing music and art is all Riot's capable of producing at a respectable level, so yeah...

ShadowParker14 votes

You're looking at what you want implemented, and forgetting everything else Riot HAS implemented.

Before you get all salty, don't bash on riot before you play devil's advocate.

Daedalus8712 votes

Such as?

Transgressor1 votes

Such as? Tell me, you and the clowns that upvoted you. Tell me what they've implemented to their game to improve player experience outside of gameplay, tell me what they've done that developers of games nobody knows take for granted, and the biggest game on PC ever, rejects and denies to implement.

Oh, and I'm not salty nor playing the devil's advocate, I'm telling things as they are, not pulling stuff out of my ass. Truth hurts, I know.

JAGMAG3 votes

team builder

Transgressor1 votes

-Team builder(which is trash) x No replay system

  •                  (empty)               x   No  sandbox mode
    
  •                  (empty)               x   No coaching mode
    
  •                  (empty)               x   No player reform system(other than automated shit with unacceptable errors)
    
  •                  (empty)               x   No player reward system
    
  •                  (empty)               x   Pointless mastery system that just creates a mindset of false progression without doing anything.
    
  •                  ------.-------               x                   ------.--------
    

I can do this all day, fanboys got nothing on me.

JAGMAG3 votes

they do have player reform, there is a reward system its called banners and end of season rewards, they just moved the servers

im not a fan boy but riot does try

Transgressor1 votes

Those are for ranked, not for being a good teamplayer and stuff. There is no point in honoring anyone, no incentives, no rewards for those who get honored either(500 honors for a red emblem topkek). What you call reform I call an insult to my intelligence; I can't say even breathe when having my games ruined by cunts, because the system will auto-target me and ban me, but you can play all you want and ruin normal and ranked games alike, feeding and trolling. And did you know there's a thing called "chronic leavers"? LOL, we're talking about people who consistently leave matches, I wonder what they're still doing in this game.

They moved the servers? This affects only NA(fyi)and some who play from Japan. They didn't do it for you, they did it to improve their infrastructure. If your connection is shit, you're going to quit this game, which is potential loss of profit for Riot(and Tencent). In the long run, they make massive profit, by directly affecting you(lowering/increasing your ping). Besides, they keep improving their shitty hardware. Hardware they use since the release of this game. They've said it themselves, they have massive tech debts. They didn't do it to please me, they did it because they eventualy need improved systems to work with, and not their spaghetti code.

Don' be delusional.

ShadowParker2 votes

You can't honestly tell me you're not salty.

Yes. League Of Legends is the biggest game in the moba genre. Even In the world I believe. Which is why it takes so long to get stuff achieved and fixed. They have to release stuff that's capable of working on millions of computers around the world. One tiny mess up, and all the players like you complain how bad of a company they are.

Riot does care about reform. That's why they released the tribunal. That's also why they're reworking it, so it's more accurate and can help even more.

Teambuilder- They're working on having all ranked queue's work through it. What would you propose they do to fix teambuilder? Because right now I'd say it's pretty darn great. It just needs more players. The instant feedback system- A system that is capable of banning bad behavior within 10 minutes. **Mastery- **It's a system that they've implemented. The system is ready to go for when they decide on which direction they would like to take the system. Versus not releasing it at all- which I'm sure you'd complain even more about. Honor- This system is implemented. It hands out ribbons to reward players, at one point they handed out icons as well. The problem with this system is that players abuse it, so Riot has to find a way(which they will), around it. Community Events- Such as the pool party event. This event brought together millions of players, jumping in chats, asking players if they wanted to go into parties together. Many friends were made during these events. **Party Boost- **Reward players for playing with friends, and, with randoms if they so choose. Bringing players together. The advanced webpage on stats- Through this players were able to see how much damage they actually dealt. If they were told they were garbage, they could just look onto that. Muting- Not only did they implement muting but pinging as well. The server move- Although this doesn't seem likely. I remember when I played after the move- everyone was so friendly. I would jump into games and see everyone talking about how their ping was so much better. The Boards Profanity filters- They care to make sure you're not getting cussed out.

Remember all those random level 1 accounts? Yeah, they took care of that.

The problem with reform, is that players abuse the systems. Working a way around it seems easy at first. But it's also easy to abuse a system and take advantage of it. Especially when the community is rather toxic.

You're so blinded by the stuff you want in. You forget the stuff they've done. I didn't even name half the stuff they've done to improve player reform. I merely brushed the surface.

Please don't compare a game like this to a game like Smite. If you're really that unhappy about player reform(Even though I listed so many examples), just go play Smite.

#Truth

Transgressor1 votes

THIS IS FUCKING HILARIOUS.

MUTING- LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL PARTY BOOST- LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL THE PROFANITY FILTERS- LOOK UP HOW WELL HAS CENSORSHIP HELPED PEOPLE THROUGHOUT HISTORY ADVANCED STATS- LOOOOOOOOOOOL, DO YOU THINK SHOWING PROPER STATS AND FEEDBACK TO THE PLAYER IS SOMETHING TO BE PROUD ABOUT? AHAHAHAHAH THIS SHIT HAS BEEN TAKEN FOR GRANTED IN GAMING FOR YEAAAAAAARS. COMMUNITY EVENTS- SUMMONERSCON IS A COMMUNITY EVENT. SKIN LINES AREN'T. YOU GET ARTWORK AND STUFF TO PAY, SOMETHING NEAT HAPPENS HERE AND THERE, BUT UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES ARE THOSE COMMUNITY EVENTS. CONVENTIONS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH SKIN RELEASES AND LORE RETCONS. INSTANT FEEDBACK SYSTEM- LOL IT'S JUST A WORTHLESS BOT THAT AUTOMATICALLY DETECTS "BAD WORDS" AND BANS THEM. THAT WAY YOU CAN ABUSE IT WHENEVER SOMEONE CALLS YOU STUPID AND YOUR LITTLE SNOWFLAKE OF A PERSONALITY CAN'T HANDLE IT. MEANWHILE TROLLS RUIN COUNTLESS GAMES. THE SERVER MOVE- THIS IS AN INVESTMENT MAID PRIMARILY FOR THEMSELVES. IF THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE IS TRASH, THEY HAVE NOTHING TO WORK ON. HONORS- THEY ARE SHIT. I'VE BEEN PLAYING THIS GAME FOR ALMOST 4 YEARS AND I'VE SEEN 20 PEOPLE WITH RIBBONS. NOT ONCE HAVE I SEEN SOMEONE WITH AN ACTUAL SKIN FROM REFER-A-FRIEND. MASTERY- SO FAR IS POINTLESS. JUST AN ABSTRACT NUMBER WITHOUT MEANING BEHIND IT. WHEN THEY GIVE IT PURPSE GIVE ME A CALL.

SMITE WAS MENTIONED AS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW BETTER RIOT'S COMPETITION HANDLES THINGS. COMPETITION THAT'S NOWHERE NEAR RIOT'S SIZE, STILL DOES BETTER IN ALMOST EVERY LEVEL. YOU DON'T LIKE SMITE, DOTA2 DOES COACHING, HAS SANDBOX MODE. BOTH SMITE AND DOTA2 HAVE CUSTOM UI. AND DON'T TALK SHIT ABOUT TOXICITY TO ME BUDDY, GO HAVE A TASTE OF WORLD OF TANKS, CALL OF DUTY, BATTLEFIELD, AND TELL ME WHAT TOXICITY IS.

STOP LISTING ME STUFF THEY ARE TAKEN FOR GRANTED IN THE GAMING INDUSTRY FOR 20 YEARS, JUST BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT NOTHING OF IMPORTANCE TO BACK YOUR CLAIMS UP. IGNORANCE CAN TAKE YOU SO FAR.

THIS IS TRUTH.

warpenguin5552 votes

{quoted}

THIS IS FUCKING HILARIOUS.

MUTING- LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL PARTY BOOST- LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL THE PROFANITY FILTERS- LOOK UP HOW WELL HAS CENSORSHIP HELPED PEOPLE THROUGHOUT HISTORY ADVANCED STATS- LOOOOOOOOOOOL, DO YOU THINK SHOWING PROPER STATS AND FEEDBACK TO THE PLAYER IS SOMETHING TO BE PROUD ABOUT? AHAHAHAHAH THIS SHIT HAS BEEN TAKEN FOR GRANTED IN GAMING FOR YEAAAAAAARS. COMMUNITY EVENTS- SUMMONERSCON IS A COMMUNITY EVENT. SKIN LINES AREN'T. YOU GET ARTWORK AND STUFF TO PAY, SOMETHING NEAT HAPPENS HERE AND THERE, BUT UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES ARE THOSE COMMUNITY EVENTS. CONVENTIONS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH SKIN RELEASES AND LORE RETCONS. INSTANT FEEDBACK SYSTEM- LOL IT'S JUST A WORTHLESS BOT THAT AUTOMATICALLY DETECTS "BAD WORDS" AND BANS THEM. THAT WAY YOU CAN ABUSE IT WHENEVER SOMEONE CALLS YOU STUPID AND YOUR LITTLE SNOWFLAKE OF A PERSONALITY CAN'T HANDLE IT. MEANWHILE TROLLS RUIN COUNTLESS GAMES. THE SERVER MOVE- THIS IS AN INVESTMENT MAID PRIMARILY FOR THEMSELVES. IF THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE IS TRASH, THEY HAVE NOTHING TO WORK ON. HONORS- THEY ARE SHIT. I'VE BEEN PLAYING THIS GAME FOR ALMOST 4 YEARS AND I'VE SEEN 20 PEOPLE WITH RIBBONS. NOT ONCE HAVE I SEEN SOMEONE WITH AN ACTUAL SKIN FROM REFER-A-FRIEND. MASTERY- SO FAR IS POINTLESS. JUST AN ABSTRACT NUMBER WITHOUT MEANING BEHIND IT. WHEN THEY GIVE IT PURPSE GIVE ME A CALL.

SMITE WAS MENTIONED AS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW BETTER RIOT'S COMPETITION HANDLES THINGS. COMPETITION THAT'S NOWHERE NEAR RIOT'S SIZE, STILL DOES BETTER IN ALMOST EVERY LEVEL. YOU DON'T LIKE SMITE, DOTA2 DOES COACHING, HAS SANDBOX MODE. BOTH SMITE AND DOTA2 HAVE CUSTOM UI. AND DON'T TALK SHIT ABOUT TOXICITY TO ME BUDDY, GO HAVE A TASTE OF WORLD OF TANKS, CALL OF DUTY, BATTLEFIELD, AND TELL ME WHAT TOXICITY IS.

STOP LISTING ME STUFF THEY ARE TAKEN FOR GRANTED IN THE GAMING INDUSTRY FOR 20 YEARS, JUST BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT NOTHING OF IMPORTANCE TO BACK YOUR CLAIMS UP. IGNORANCE CAN TAKE YOU SO FAR.

THIS IS TRUTH.

was the caps needed? didnt think so

Transgressor1 votes

When I get told preposterously enough stupid stuff that I feel like I'm having my intelligence insulted, I get salty. And since I have no way of slapping(literally) some sense into this kind of person that would spew such ignorant nonsense, or result to vulgar vocabulary, I use caps.

It's just my way of doing things, and the downvotes prove what I have to say is right.

ShadowParker1 votes

I didn't swear. In a single sentence. You swore a ton. So quite frankly I have no idea why you're trying to justify your rude comments? But okay.

And how does the downvotes have anything to do with you being "right"?

JAGMAG1 votes

i also stated "this would require some work" i realize its unlikely its just an idea i had

Transgressor1 votes

And a good idea at that, I'm just being realistic.

The Taco Kat5 votes

I'm being completely honest, I'd love to do some coaching. It sounds fun, and when I have a relatively new player in my game, I like to teach them more parts of the game. Given, I don't know everything about this game, but I know the basics. As a Plat 5 player, I'd love to teach some new players how to play this game. :) Hope this goes somewhere.

cloman1001 votes

i wanna teach how not to get in bronze :P

JAGMAG1 votes

that's pretty cool and same. im a much lower rank then you XD but when i have friends who are just starting the game its fun to jump into a normal with them and explain how the game works build paths strats and all that stuff i also find it allot more relaxing since i honestly dont expect to win the game and that's ok as long as they learned something.

PT Waluigi1 votes

MR TACO! HALP! I SUCK AT LEAGUE! HAVNT PLAY NOORMAL BECUSE SCURED OF TOXIC PLAYERS! >_<. I AM COWARD! PLAYED ARAM TO MAKE ME FEL GOOD. NOW I'M LVL 20, AND REACHING HARDER OPPENENST! NOW IS TUFF TO LEARN! HALP!....no seriously. PLayed way to much ARAM for practise that I kinda suck in normals...which is why I'm afraid of potential toxic players. League. Where your team is more mean to you then your opponents

The Taco Kat1 votes

Sorry about this being late. What would you need help with? Also, if someone is toxic, just remember that they'll only be in one game of yours, and you'll likely never have to deal with them again.

Dat cool kid4 votes

TF2 (team fortress 2 not TwistedFate 2) has a system exactly like this and i used it when i first started and i feel it works great

JAGMAG1 votes

yeah ive noticed the system on a few other games

A Dunsparce2 votes

I wouldn't mind this feature. Heck I've been playing for awhile and I'm terrible! I would honestly love legit advice that isn't uninstall and go kill myself.

JAGMAG2 votes

i probably shouldn't have laughed...but i did

Dengeden2 votes

Holy crap, a productive suggestion to improve the new player experience. What is this black magic?

JAGMAG2 votes

the blackest Vayne

PT Waluigi1 votes

the blackest Lucian

I'M SO SORRY!

Fantašy1 votes

Well who would be the coaches?

JAGMAG6 votes

anyone who is level 30 could sign up then use the mmr of either your normlas/ranked to them match you with someone who's mmr is significantly lower and then used the rating based system to weed out the good ones from the bad ones

45796282_DEL1 votes

Great Idea, I can't remember the name of the site.. but there is one (aside from RIOT) where you can sign up in a timeslot for a coach... the website is http://www.lol-coaching.com/ . But yea, would be cool if Riot made an official system

JAGMAG1 votes

well i know of a few sites but they all involve money and blah most people already spend a crap ton on skins

ProAsToss3 votes

And then you could consistently remind them, "you suck, I am silver 3 and you are bronze 1 LOL"

To make this system work you would have to make it so rewards were involved............... Wait, i know, let everyone who teaches someone get a free Teemo skin............. Than they can continue trolling during game!!!!!!!!!!!

JAGMAG2 votes

the reward would probably be some type of border add on or a special icon. if you wanted to be super nice after helping so many people get an academy skin but i doubt that would be one

Fowus11 votes

{quoted}

Well who would be the coaches?

phreak

Hatless Casual3 votes

Just build 6 item 3078's and do tons of damage!

ProAsToss1 votes

Faker's....................... Stupid Kids Teach (SKT) too Don't Really Allow Veterans Enter Now (Draven), they will ruin the system. Not All Men I'd Say (Nami's), we need some women too.

JAGMAG1 votes

yes you will end up with some dumb/toxic kids which is why you have a rating system why does it mater weather your coach is a man or a woman? its in an online game and honestly you should have no idea weather your coach is a man or a woman

Hyrum Graff1 votes

{quoted}

Well who would be the coaches?

Me.

Singady1 votes

I suggested this about a month ago when I found out Dota 2 has a great system like this in place right now......which means Riot will never copy anything that has to do with them. It's a shame but maybe it will happen

Davy Crockett1 votes

They already have........

JAGMAG2 votes

i didn't mention Dota2's system for a reason thanks you have now ruined any chance of it ever happening -.- XD

Singady1 votes

It's what i'm here for ;)

ProAsToss1 votes

This is the orst Idea ever, let's invite more Flames into LOL, YAY.

Might as well make it so in game your teammates can tell you how to play............... WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JAGMAG1 votes

except your going inot the que willing to let someone tell you "hey your doing ti wrong try this" and if they flame you its a one and done deal if they get any kind of ban from flame then they are banned from this que for like 300 games or forever

PT Waluigi1 votes

Ti. The sister of master YEEEH!

FirexSaber1 votes

I would make this exclusively for Co-op vs AI. I feel like if you added a PvP aspect, its competitive edge could get in the way of actual learning in some cases. (Since some people would start to become more focused on winning than learning).

PT Waluigi1 votes

I cannot play normal because of the fears of doing one thing wrong and I get yelled at endlessly. Which is why I think the coach idea could work. But I mostly use skype for that, but still. It would make a diffrence at the very least

warpenguin5551 votes

if somebody was an asshole or telling people to build wrong (BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTS ALLLLLLL THE WAYYYYYYYYYYY) could people report them?

JAGMAG1 votes

yes

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