You Know What I Hate The Most About Jungling?

Tentacle Advisor·12/14/2019, 4:42:15 AM·33 votes·16,436 views

Believe it or not, it isn't due to the Jungle changes that made junglers weaker. Oh, no, no, no.

What I hate the most about Jungling is when you have TWO LANES with Jungle priority, early game (let's say Top and Mid Lane). And NEITHER ONE OF THEM decides to leave their lane to help contest the Scuttle crab that you and the opposing Jungler are fighting over. DESPITE ME (as the Jungler in the scenario) pinging it so much that I lose the ability to ping any further.

That's what I hate about Jungling.

85 Comments

PhearBunny12/14/2019, 11:31:17 AM15 votes

Sub- HighPlat players have virtually zero understanding of what jungle priority is. As far as they know, the only thing a jungler does is ganks, and it isnt their responsibility to help you, its your responsibility to help them.

Crescent Dusk12/14/2019, 5:28:13 AM15 votes

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Believe it or not, it isn't due to the Jungle changes that made junglers weaker. Oh, no, no, no.

What I hate the most about Jungling is when you have TWO LANES with Jungle priority, early game (let's say Top and Mid Lane). And NEITHER ONE OF THEM decides to leave their lane to help contest the Scuttle crab that you and the opposing Jungler are fighting over. DESPITE ME (as the Jungler in the scenario) pinging it so much that I lose the ability to ping any further.

That's what I hate about Jungling.

Jungle can't carry anymore unless you're a Lee Sin, Olaf, or Rek'sai.

You need to have a champ that can delete people at lv2-3 and has enough burst+CC to compensate for terrible laners, because junglers now fall off by lv5 if they don't pop off from lv2-3 ganks.

You're always behind 2 levels of enemy laners, and if you can't 1v1 the enemy jungler they take all your camps and you become worse than a cannon minion without help from laners.

You cannot duel laners other than the support or a losing adc anymore.

I used to play jungle so I could be independent from garbage inters, but now you're completely dependent on at least 2 lanes doing well because all you're good for as jungler is getting winning lanes snowballed since you can't contest lanes on your own anymore.

YiffMeImAFurry12/14/2019, 10:38:50 AM11 votes

My least favorite part is that if something goes wrong on a gank its your fault according to your laner no matter what

AstroFerrari 12/14/2019, 6:27:35 AM11 votes

And on top of this, as soon they start crapping the bed in lane, the good ol jungler alive pings come through. It's so outrageously tilting

Baelim12/14/2019, 9:12:34 AM9 votes

Or when they point out you being 1/2 when they are ignoring their minimap even though they have prior. Somehow they not only think KDA is king but they always fail to see they work your putting in by stealing objectives.

Or the "My jungle is useless" proceeding to grief you and your camps. This one gets me the most. It's hard something fierce not to be like "Oh, you not only ignore your map but you also don't want a jungler, fine by me". They just don't get how hard we were hit. If they don't respond, but the enemy does, you fall behind. So they then take your camps as your doing them?! May as well beg for a 4v5.

Ragaren12/14/2019, 6:13:59 AM7 votes

Just happened my last game.

Me as LeeSin fighting their Graves near mid, I got his health down to 1/4 when Fizz E's in. I dodge his E get auto'd a couple times start walking towards my mid laner while they follow, and she's farming minions in the mid lane. Then after seeing how low their health bars were, she decides to 1v2 and dies.

After that it was repeated feeding from mid, and my top laner throwing away my ganks because him as Mordekaiser ulted every time I came to lower the full health . He never got a kill, wasted my time and somehow ended up dying to the nautilus.

Then later in the game after I stolen drags, and and a baron my team decided they were smarter junglers than me and threw away a fourth mountain drake that would've helped with the Fizz burst, and instead pinged baron which was clearly warded.

The jungle changes suck enough that I can't competitively play my mains, but whats even worse is the laners that seem to drool on their keyboard.

StormBladeMaster12/14/2019, 12:51:06 PM6 votes

Me as laner : I Just want to farm in peace.

Jungler : Help me please !!! I'm on the enemy jungle, i tried to counterjungle and i failed it !!

That why i hate jungle. I just want peace but i can't.

I remember seasons 4 were junglers weren't permaganking lanes to be useful. I remember when they were no scuttles crab and we could focus on our lanes. I remember when junglers didn't used to permacountergank and get killed in the middle of the jungle.

I remember when drakes wasn't that important. Jungle was a normal role like Mid, Top and bot. They had no more influence or less than us.

Now everything is on them and bot lane.

I hope Nexus Blizt will be back. Less jungle mean better games with less pressure and less tryharding. The jungle in Nexus blizt is perfect and that how it's should be : Junglers have no more impact than lanes and we don't have to worry about stupid drakes or nashors. They was important but not to the point of making the entire game. Missing a drake wasn't synonym of "lose".

We could focus on a casual gameplay, on fun and we wasn't permaganked from lvl 2.

Since season 6 i'm asking for a map with no jungle because to me jungle is only a problem.

And i'm true because look at how jungle is now : Only a problem.

Your role is worse and worse everyday and riot is only making it worse by putting all the power beetween your hands. Now for winning a game, we need a jungler who is 10/0, permaganking and doing drakes every 5 min.

I just want to go back to a more casual gameplay with less stress and more calm and serenity.

General Esdeath 12/14/2019, 7:59:53 AM6 votes

I always take the enemy buff and say "pls ward my (farthest buff), and if they invade, collapse, ez kill"

90% chance you snowball off of that play, and people just go "huh?"

Thefrostyviking12/14/2019, 12:27:56 PM5 votes

Wana know what i dislike the most when playing a laner?

When my jungler picks a fight with the enemy jungler after they ganked me ( giving enemy a massive health lead and burning my flash) and then blames me for not following my laner when they inevitably wins a easy 2v1.

Oh wait, that´s not actually the worst.

The worst is when they decide to gank into a giant enemy minion wave at lvl 3 against say a Garen or a Darius who are full HP in the middle of the lane, then they blame their laner ( usually me when i see it) for essentially not being able to compete with 20 minions+1 champion in terms of damage at that point.

Another variant of that is when the enemy laner has a giant wave and uses waveclear to clear all my minions (around the middle of the lane) to send a giant wave towards me and my tower, then my jungler thinks its a good idea to go in.

Enemy laner sees this and he engages on me, kills me then fights my jungler in the wave and kills him too, i get blamed for being useless.

I wait until minions have crashed into the tower so i wont get aggro to prevent that? My jungler did not so he dies in the meanwhile then blames me anyway.

It all just sucks real bad :(

....

Oh it´s almost like it sucks to have dumbasses on the team regardless of their role :o

Slitorous12/14/2019, 6:48:24 PM4 votes

EVERYONE blames the jg when they suck

ACriticalThinker12/15/2019, 1:27:27 AM3 votes

Don't forget the dragons that BENEFIT THEM, like I'm supposed to get dragons when Shyvana, Pyke, Kai'sa , and Fizz are up my ass but Ashe, Thresh, and Syndra cannot be bothered to help out. Instead it's my fault that I didn't get em and im a "trash jg"... L U L...[zombie-brand-facepalm] [sg-janna] [sg-lux-2]

klin53712/14/2019, 8:26:44 PM2 votes

If you asked they probably don't know what priority is. Roaming is pretty much the most important part of playing mid lane and I've been flamed by talons who didn't roam once, saying shit like "I win my lane but lose game because trash [insert role]". Like, people in low elo just think the game is farming until you get their tower then teamfighting till the game ends.

I had one game with a quinn top who was literally getting slaughtered in lane. Then she hits six and starts roaming. What do you know, she ends up carrying. Roaming is just so important and its just sad that sometimes, your team just doesn't what it is.

LightswornLance12/15/2019, 6:38:50 AM2 votes

Honestly it goes both ways but I agree it is more common for junglers. Yesterday I was playing some mid lane Ryze with a Master Yi jungle. Master Yi clears his blue side jungle and heads to his raptors then after that his Red. Elise went Red Blue Gromp then invaded him at red. He made five mechanical misplays in fighting her any one of which would have allowed him to survive. After dying he spam pings enemy missing on me then flames in chat. I usually would type something witty back but I decided not to type anything and just continue'd playing the game out. We handedly won and I had 10 cs per minute. :)

He's the clip if anyone wants to see. https://imgur.com/a/Q8Rgx9y He didn't kite out the red buff. He paused for a second when placing the ward while being chased. He walked the wrong way ( literally as far as possible from me ) and ran further into his jungle instead of straight towards mid turret. He didn't position himself with the blast cone properly. And then he Q'd after W'ing all of her damage, he could've just walked away to the safety of the turret and lived.

Süjo12/15/2019, 6:48:00 AM2 votes

i hate laners with vision and warning, dying and feeding all the time mainly for the opposing jungler which I'm stomping... and after feeding and delivering all possible goals dying randomly, they turn and blame you. Sometimes I feel like throwing my notebook through the window.

Turtles Are Okay12/15/2019, 8:12:44 AM2 votes

You are correct. This is why I decided to go to bot, well, this and the fact that bot always ends up going 0-20. Unfortunately, now that I'm on bot, the jungler doesn't know what to do.

22 Caliber Rifle12/15/2019, 9:32:14 AM2 votes

LeeSin this is all I will say. Most broken boring shit in the game

Charmy Bird12/15/2019, 1:14:24 PM2 votes

What I hate is how hard we're being punished for not having a successful gank. U failed a gank and now the solo laners are 3 levels ahead of u. I wonder how can I kill a yasuo, cassio, morde etc when they're 3 levels ahead of me Ofc riot only wants us to play their batshit broken Lee sin in order to survive the current shit jungle.

vimaid12/14/2019, 6:43:55 AM2 votes

Jungler is a thankless role it gets autofilled more then support

GankLord12/15/2019, 8:59:45 PM2 votes

Forget the skuttlecrab what about Dragon or Rift. Like Literally the dragon helps everyone. My team gave up the dragon to get some kills after a succesful gank. One person that escaped the gank killed me and took the dragon because I was low doing it alone.

Ashe mage AD12/14/2019, 6:05:36 AM2 votes

Happened to me as well. It's so easy to be put behind by loosing just 1 of those these days also.

Worst JG Wins12/14/2019, 2:30:28 PM2 votes

So you hate the bad s8 changes and not the bad s10 changes.

Got it.