Weird thing about Hecarim

Manwad·Dec 21, 2014·13 votes·1,154 views

Why does have a damage reduction against monsters when using his Rampage (Q)? Like, as far as I know only Garen has something like that on his E. Hecarim's a jungler and while, in my experience, he's not bad, little things like that hinder him.

A farm jungler who has restrictions on his farming, like, why?

12 Comments

KingsgraveDec 21, 201412 votes

He was released in Season 2 when the jungle was super easy to clear. They had to stop him from potentially becoming Shyvana with CC.

I think they should evaluate it again now. It might be good to have it at 100%.

ManwadDec 21, 20141 votes

They seem to be looking at him with the little PBE buffs he's getting. Tiny things, like reduced mana cost on his Rampage and a higher healing cap.

So, come 5.1, he could have it removed. Maybe.

TheI3igDaddyDec 21, 20144 votes

Because over time Riot has continuously nerfed Hecarim so much that the phrase 'beating a dead horse' literally fucking applies here.

Kuroi86Dec 21, 20143 votes

To keep him from clearing the jungle so fast you hardly realize he's there until he's ganking mid and a level ahead. Truthfully though, with the jungle changes, I think there's reason to lighten or remove the limits on his abilities where jungle monsters are concerned.

YakasDec 21, 20142 votes

Tbh, there are a lot of things wrong with hecarim atm. It's not because he's bad, its because there are so many better picks.

Best example is Rek which is a hecarim that's better in almost every aspect.

FantasySniperDec 21, 20141 votes

The same reason he has that awkward Rampage stacking thing.

OneSlickPhonyDec 21, 20141 votes

I thought about making a thread about this same subject. It's like they WANT Hecarim to be bad in the new jungle... smh

A small damage reduction (80%) wouldn't be bad, but having your damage taken down by a third? Uhh, no.

ofartDec 21, 20141 votes

Maybe they don't want him to be a jungler and so gave him the Alistar treatment (stick to support or else!).

Teridax68Dec 21, 20141 votes

I think the worst part of this is just the tooltip: reduced damage against minions and monsters sounds bad, but 50% increased damage against champions sounds really nice, even if there's zero difference in the actual numbers. While Hec may just as well deal full damage to jungle monsters now, just a switch in the tooltip would make his Q feel better.