Balancing Oracle's Extract

adjoth·May 14, 2018·1 votes·813 views

It's to cheap for a item that completely invalidates stealth. The duration seems to last forever, and because its so cheap you can easily get it. And some abilities it completely counters. To put it simply its like how hourglass is to a zed, but always on (5 mins). It needs to be changed. My thoughts is to add a stack of detection, like 3, whereas it will detect 3 items max. If that's to heavy of a nerf you could also put the detection of CD, to which it will refresh after a duration.

6 Comments

Tahminatrix May 14, 20181 votes

Its like an hourglass that doesn't need to take up an itemslot

adjothMay 15, 20181 votes

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Its like an hourglass that doesn't need to take up an itemslot

yes, yes, because it doesn't 75 AP, 45 Armor and 10% CD with an active that completely nulls any damage. Almost like its a legitimate item that doesn't drasticly affect the game making some champions invalid yes, yes, you have a point. [zombie-brand-facepalm]

Tahminatrix May 15, 20181 votes

I just agreed with you and you are complaining? you said oracles extract is to stealth champs just as hourglass is to zed...oracles doesn't even need to take up an item slot...if it became an actual nontrinket item with an active wouldn't it be more fair?

Also im not the one that downvoted you sooo… [slayer-pantheon-thumbs] ill put you to -1 to prove it since it would be impossible for me to get you to -1 if it was just me lol...

Will reupvote later.

adjothMay 15, 20181 votes

[{quoted}](name=Super Cow Swag,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hGYpsjiL,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-05-15T20:19:51.570+0000)

I just agreed with you and you are complaining? you said oracles extract is to stealth champs just as hourglass is to zed...oracles doesn't even need to take up an item slot...if it became an actual nontrinket item with an active wouldn't it be more fair?

Also im not the one that downvoted you sooo… [slayer-pantheon-thumbs] ill put you to -1 to prove it since it would be impossible for me to get you to -1 if it was just me lol...

Will reupvote later.

I'm saying the two are non comparable. Hourglass has a clear strengths and weakness witch can be played around, Oracles you've no other choice than to wait 5 mins for it to fade away. Assuming no one is stocking up on them.

Tahminatrix May 15, 20181 votes

You legit just compared them, hourglass to zed as oracles to stealth reliant champs...

But always on (5 mins) so its a lingering counter rather than an active one...

Oracles shouldn't be this effective if it doesn't need an itemslot is what im saying...make it an actual item..