Tanks to tanky?

JAGMAG·May 14, 2015·1 votes·666 views

So as an adc main ive noticed tanks are getting to the point there impossible to kill unless your playing a tank buster adc like kogmaw or vayne. so do you guys think that its balanced that only certain adcs can burn threw the heavy tanks of the current meta? for example as jinx today i had full build of ie,pd.bt.greves,bork,lw and caught out the enemy malphite so after a good 10 secs of auto-attacking and using abilities i managed to finally get him down to half health then he got away because his team showed up....so he was able to live threw 10 seconds of full build jinx and there was 3 tanks total on their team their was no way to burn threw them quick enough is that balanced?

11 Comments

vC48YNoGbJMay 14, 20151 votes

If he took that little damage, I assume he went full armor and your mages can shred him.

JAGMAGMay 14, 20151 votes

maybe if he hadn't afk XD

Sir PelletierMay 14, 20151 votes

Try using item 3142 Instead of item 3035 . Also I really don't like item 3153 . get more crit and attck speed instead and get a item 3087 . Just my thoughts.

JAGMAGMay 14, 20151 votes

you really think a bit more crit chance and as is better than the damage as and passive of bork? (not being sarcastic im actually asking)

EndlessSorcererMay 14, 20151 votes

I'm pretty sure that was sarcasm on their part. They were jokingly (or mockingly) recommending using anti-squishy items instead of anti-tank items.

JAGMAGMay 14, 20151 votes

well you do need crit and as to blow threw a tank i just dont think shiv is that good and ghost blade is an ok item i used to get it instead of bork but i just like the idea of the more sustain from bork then the 20 flat pen and active as from ghost blade

Sir PelletierJun 25, 20151 votes

I take back the shiv. Phantom Dancer works better. Also I now just get both armor pen items if there are heavy tanks or it is far into late game. Otherwise yeah get the BOTRK.

EndlessSorcererMay 14, 20151 votes

Out of curiousity, could you link the Jinx/Malphite game?

Anyways, Malphite probably isn't the best example for this due to his W increasing armor and his E (and Frozen Heart) reducing attack speed, severely reducing your DPS. Also, were you attacking using your minigun or your rockets, because there is a massive difference in the DPS each provides.

BluePolarizerMay 14, 20151 votes

your mistake was in using any abilities to do anything other than peel for yourself, since using W reduces your DPS as opposed to autoing

10 seconds of Jinx autoing with 350 AD is 15000 physical damage, accounting for 55% crits. A 4000 HP, 300 armor malphite only has 16000 effective HP against physical. With LW, he only has 11800 effective HP against physical.

EndlessSorcererMay 14, 20151 votes

Keep in mind, Malphite does have his E to slow attack speed, typically buys Frozen Heart, and can greatly increase his armor with W. By increasing his durability and reducing her DPS, he could substantially increase her lifespan. Especially since the OP never specified if they were using Minigun or Rocket form.

ErockandrollMay 14, 20151 votes

Tank's scale with items, Naturally their good late game, This is part of the reason why late game carries are preferred for taking them out. The thing is that every champion typically has tradeoffs, and we have a pick and ban phase, so If class of champ A, sacrifices burst or split push potential for pretty decent tankyness except against class of champion B. That's a fair trade off, and just because that B has trouble with A, is far from win all, end all.

Something I noticed that's decent in the tank meta that people seem to forget. Poke. Tanks do have tons of health, but they can't recover all that very quickly. (with the possible exception of Mundo) If you can weaken them before the team fight begins, Their going to go down a lot easier. And lets not forget that poke has been buffed with the introduction of Luden's echo.