@Meddler: What skill level do you guys plan on balancing Kog for?

Rebonack·Oct 30, 2016·1 votes·341 views

Plat1/Diamond5 or LCS level?

I ask because in the devblog topic it was stated that Kog simply wasn't working because he couldn't follow team fights or some nonsense. I know he was absolutely awful at the LCS level, but he was ripping Ranked play a new one. If the flat OnHit he had was just toned down, he probably could have been balanced around Solo (especially with those incoming Fervor nerfs). But instead he was reverted, ostensibly because Riot wants him to be a thing in LCS again?

Maybe?

I'm sure you can understand my confusion.

Is Kog destined to be one of those champs like Azir who gets sacrificed to the shitheap in Solo because he has the potential to be strong in LCS? Or is he actually going to balanced around Plat/Diamond like the rest of the cast?

4 Comments

Best Kog NAOct 30, 20161 votes

He's going to be nerfed until he isn't a viable pick anymore for ADC. Right now Mid lane koggy is better than adc koggy so riot's going to nerf mid lane koggy and just leave ADC koggy where it is. Basically, he's going to be killed (Not literally because then his passive would activate... you know what I mean)

RebonackOct 30, 20161 votes

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He's going to be nerfed until he isn't a viable pick anymore for ADC. Right now Mid lane koggy is better than adc koggy so riot's going to nerf mid lane koggy and just leave ADC koggy where it is. Basically, he's going to be killed (Not literally because then his passive would activate... you know what I mean)

Meddler said that they have 'changes' planned for Kog after the pre-season plantpalooza is over. So I think they understand that ADC Kog is too weak (and that AP Kog is possibly too strong). There are ways to fix that, of course. I'm just worried that they don't really understand Kog well enough to actually address the problems without making things worse.

The track record in Kog's buff/nerf history isn't very encouraging.

I also know that there's a great deal of internal disagreement over whether Kog should be balanced around Solo play or if he should be balanced purely based on potential LCS performance. I'm curious if Riot ever reached consensus on that issue, because the DevBlog suggests they haven't.

WeatheredOct 30, 20161 votes

Riot doesn't usually balance a whole champion on a specific rank... they may do balance tweaks for under or over performance at certain levels, but a champion is for all to play.

RebonackOct 30, 20161 votes

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Riot doesn't usually balance a whole champion on a specific rank... they may do balance tweaks for under or over performance at certain levels, but a champion is for all to play.

Riot balances primarily around the plat1/diamond5 level, though they'll make changes in the case of extreme outliers (Yi in lower level play, Azir in higher level play, ect). They've stated this explicitly on multiple occasions.

I'm asking if Riot intends to balance Kog around Solo play or LCS play, because I feel like we've gotten mixed signals on that particular issue over the past years.