Is morde jungle viable 5.16?

z63XnLCMwX·Aug 20, 2015·2 votes·1,297 views

I was thinking of running morde jungle patch with 15% cdr runes, starting blue, he'd have 25% cdr -> 7.5 second cd Q.

He'd have 61 ad +5 ad at level 2 + 15 ad runes = 81 ad Q empowers it up to 85 + 0.25AD + 0.2 AP, but let's just say 85 base for simplicity and use the damage from the ratio to cancel out the monster's resistance. Hit 1 = 85 Hit 2 = 170 Hit 3 = 340 Total damage 3 hits = 595 He gets a 25% shield so 149 hp shield.

Would this be enough to make him a viable jungler or he would still die too fast to camps.

Also, does Q empower affect on hit effects like spell blade/jungle item passive?

11 Comments

TrebbiAug 20, 20151 votes

well, you can try?

problem he doesnt have a buddy(most of the time) and the sustain is in his W.

So unless you double jungle with your top at the start of the match, it might be decent.

My rule of thumb is if they cant do 3 any camps solo they cant jungle.

redniwediSAug 20, 20151 votes

Wait, does his bonus XP thing work on jungle creeps? Could he give a laner bonus XP when they leash while not setting himself behind?

TheLastShadow45Aug 20, 20151 votes

No, it's only lane minions.

redniwediSAug 20, 20151 votes

Good to hear. That was almost a very interesting situation.

Posui GartAug 20, 20151 votes

Well, you can try that in custom game. I think getting AD+AP from left mastery tree, and going full def tree after that would be fine. And if someone helps you with first camp-you can get W for tons of damage and heal after that. Oh, and try Devourer. His Q should work with it. You thought 3AA-kill was hard? Try 2AA-kill with huge AS

z63XnLCMwXAug 20, 20151 votes

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Well, you can try that in custom game. I think getting AD+AP from left mastery tree, and going full def tree after that would be fine. And if someone helps you with first camp-you can get W for tons of damage and heal after that. Oh, and try Devourer. His Q should work with it. You thought 3AA-kill was hard? Try 2AA-kill with huge AS

I heard that devourer doesn't work with empowered hits like how it doesn't work with xin's q.

Posui GartAug 20, 20151 votes

But it works, Xin knockups people with 2nd attack instead of 3rd, at least that's what i saw in game

z63XnLCMwXAug 20, 20151 votes

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But it works, Xin knockups people with 2nd attack instead of 3rd, at least that's what i saw in game

I stand corrected then

ExiledTyrantAug 20, 20151 votes

It works on live Morde now. His jungle clear will be even faster now that his Q does more damage and he gets even more base AD. It's just hard to gank before 6 so if your lanes are losing you can't really help them. Very fast and safe farm though completely cuts out his weakness of being ganked with proper ward placement and scuttle control. The jungle items are terrible on him but after a few kills on the 450 machete upgrade you recoup the gold loss and make some back on the resell to finish one of your core items so no real loss.

z63XnLCMwXAug 20, 20151 votes

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It works on live Morde now. His jungle clear will be even faster now that his Q does more damage and he gets even more base AD. It's just hard to gank before 6 so if your lanes are losing you can't really help them. Very fast and safe farm though completely cuts out his weakness of being ganked with proper ward placement and scuttle control. The jungle items are terrible on him but after a few kills on the 450 machete upgrade you recoup the gold loss and make some back on the resell to finish one of your core items so no real loss.

So, Morde with Sated, 40% CDR, and a bloodthirster would be able to effectively solo baron as he has a permanent shield. Can't wait to try this build after the patch. item 3931 item 3072 item 3071 item 3065 item 3153 item 3047 . R.i.p baron 2008-2015

Edit: Also rip the fool that gets stunned.

ExiledTyrantAug 20, 20151 votes

Does sated actually interact with his new Q though? With his attack speed profile supposedly relieving a buff instead of being nerfed attack speed is going to be attractive on him again. Might actually make devourer useful on him as well when the other jungle items aren't ( old rune glaive was close).

Did some practice jungle runs to modify my masteries and rune pages. Sated Devourer doesn't work on his Q stacks. First clear is actually about 10 seconds longer than old morde due to the Q CD and moves peed I'm guessing. Afterwards it evens out.