Faced a Graves with Death's Dance and Warlord's Bloodlust

A Simple Desire·7/25/2016, 8:45:37 AM·4 votes·1,180 views

We fought a little and after the fight we were both left around 10% hp. He then proceeds to heal from 10% to around 65-70% in one wave. This meant I had to go back while he took tower for free. How exactly is this balanced again?

14 Comments

LaserDeathBlade7/25/2016, 8:53:48 AM6 votes

Sustain top laners aren't exactly breaking news

TequilaZombie7/25/2016, 2:56:27 PM3 votes

item 3123 It's a cheap item that can seriously ruin a drain tank's day. item 3033 Will not be wasted, as Graves is known to have high armor in the late game.

Jamaree7/25/2016, 9:04:31 AM2 votes

Because every ADC can do that, hell, every AD based champion in the game can do that given the same amount of time.

Wolfram Oxford7/25/2016, 2:17:10 PM2 votes

Warlord's gives 20% lifesteal when you are at 20% HP, Death's Dance applies 15% healing for physical damage. Each pellet applies on-hits and lifesteal. So yeah, since his auto attack is AoE it makes sense he heals so much. Requesting a change would mean reworking him again or making him a horrible champion.

Dominick Destine7/25/2016, 8:59:22 AM2 votes

Death's Dance is incredibly expensive.

Fiora Illaoi Jax Pantheon obliterate Graves top.

Furor Nexis7/25/2016, 12:37:50 PM1 votes

Get your ADC to build a Mortal Reminder with item 3123 first, or have someone on your team who can do Grievous Wounds such as Varus. It'll shut down their self-healing potential by a tonne.

Jeddite7/25/2016, 2:26:53 PM1 votes

Graves is a superior drain-tank to Aatrox. lulululullulululululululullulululululluulz

BloodyTompon7/25/2016, 12:16:45 PM1 votes

Because each game you have an equal chance of your team picking the Overpower champs first. 50% chance = Balanced.

TheOvermind7/25/2016, 3:23:52 PM1 votes

I mean at this point, they might as well revert the bloody rework, it just doesn't work right now , he is utterly and disgustingly broken.

ProfDrDeath7/25/2016, 3:47:17 PM1 votes

It is balanced by the fact that, if he had Youmuu's and/or Thunderlord's, you'd be dead after trading like that.

EDIT: Or, to put it in another way: If you trade with equal losses against a champion with higher sustain than you, you lost the trade. Period.