If we are nerfing Doran's Ring, can we please finally buff Diana's terrible MP sustain?

SirLapse·6/2/2017, 5:51:30 PM·11 votes·664 views

Long have people been coping with her mana issues that have existed since she came into mid lane. I ask that you assist my cause.

If you track her damage to mana spent ratio, it's actually worse across the board compared to many other mid laners until her Q is lv3 or higher.

She has 297 base MP, a ridiculously low amount compared to most other mid laners. That's only enough for 5-6 Qs before you go oom, forcing you to AA trade constantly or get behind. Most times in mid lane you will be taking W first, which costs 5 more mana than Q. It stacks up over time.

Currently every single Diana is forced to build double Doran's Ring before going for their item paths. Every other mage instead uses the first Doran's to high effectiveness and only swap to getting another one if they need to play the lane super safe. You'd normally be coming in with around 14-15 MP/5 along with 10 MP per CS, allowing you another Q cast every 3-4 minions killed. The Doran's nerf would double that time. She already can't itemize mana or mana regen because it's primarily bad early, and therefore needs to be solved early into the game. Despite Gunblade/Lich Bane being a great combo for her playstyle, she can't use it because it has no MP sustain. What is this injustice?

You also fight ranged characters in the mid lane and don't get a gap closer till lv6, leaving you vulnerable without using your shield, and you don't even match a burst mage's damage despite being single target and an assassin. To compare Diana to Syndra, Diana's full combo with double R comes out to 633 damage, with Syndra's hitting an entire 1063. That's not including if Syndra spawned extra spheres. Even with third attack proc, a Diana will not beat out 1000 damage. Fair? Not at all my fellows.

Allow her passive to regen mana when it procs similar to Kassadin W. If you wouldn't be able to give her reliable sustain, explain why. I'm troubled that Riot despite everything would assist Udyr's MP issues but not Diana's, since both aren't meta right now. This Doran's Ring issue will make it undoubtedly worse than it already is. I demand compensation.

11 Comments

Moon Mom6/2/2017, 6:45:01 PM6 votes

YES PLEASE. God damn I have to rush Tri dorans as it is just to have any kind of mana left over after using one combo. I refuse to build catalyst as a rush item too.

ChaddyFantome6/2/2017, 5:56:20 PM2 votes

considering she is a diver with a damn aoe poke tool, idk if that is such a great idea.

Billy VoHagen6/2/2017, 6:05:25 PM2 votes

YES

PLEASE

Don't just do this to her, she's already in such a bad spot.

Warpes6/2/2017, 8:49:42 PM2 votes

It's not just Diana, there's quite a few mid laners that desperately need a mana update if this goes through...

which is why I wish riot would seriously reconsider nerfing dorans ring, and simply nerf galio. like wtf?

JustARivenMain6/2/2017, 11:14:42 PM2 votes

Uhm, I play Diana solely as a jungler and I find that with her EXTREMELY high damage and survivability with like a Rod of ages or so makes her low mana pool and regen a HUGE balancing factor for why she can do so much damage, hell you can only press QWR once before losing out on a majority of your mana, one rotation is mostly all you got, but that makes her balanced imo for how much goddamn damage she has mid-lategame. Runic Echos, + Sorc Shoes + Lich Bane and you burst anyone an insane amount, altho Lich bane is usually 4th item as Nashors is better 3rd.

Just to point this out, this is all in my own opinion.

RogueWill6/2/2017, 8:51:30 PM1 votes

YES BUFF DIANA!!!