You know how people get confused why Thresh won't proc Relic Shield's damage? This might help.

Deep Terror Nami·Jan 20, 2016·61 votes·4,656 views

Just change the Execute damage line to red text, and add a line that lets you know you can't trigger the damage.

https://i.gyazo.com/0cd61a712c8e07766edfac88423ea701.jpg

58 Comments

Duke AnaxJan 20, 201626 votes

It could also help to just turn around the text. A lot of the confusion seems to stem from people believing that you need to kill the minion with melee basic attack for gold and heal, That makes them believe Thresh is melee. So:

Spoils of War: Killing a minion heals the owner and nearest allied champion for 40 health and grants both kill gold.

Additionally melee attacks execute minions below 200 health. (this champion is ranged)

These effects ...

Placing the melee condition after receiving the spoils may make it clearer that they are seperate.

disregardableJan 20, 20166 votes

This assumes people will actually read that little bubble though.

Deep Terror NamiJan 20, 201615 votes

LeeSin

1 800 MID LANEJan 20, 20163 votes

For he is Lee Sin, The Blind Monk.

3ofGot40veJan 20, 20162 votes

Nah that's syndra the pizza lady!

Valderis VandalaJan 20, 20164 votes

Can't ranged champions still proc it if they are in melee range though? I know I've seen that shit happen, I'm not crazy am I?

Deep Terror NamiJan 20, 201644 votes

They don't have to be in melee range at all, they just need to get the killing blow in any way. Melee just get execute damage to make it easy.

Valderis VandalaJan 20, 20162 votes

Ah thank you, that makes more sense. XD

OvedenJan 21, 20161 votes

Can confirm. I Q cannon mins when I play Braum if I can't melee them.

UrPalAlJan 21, 20161 votes

Well Support Jayce can proc it if he switches stances after firing his ranged shot (While it's midair).

It's a korean thing.

AmetDeCryptJan 21, 20161 votes

I gotta try this...

Vistha KaiJan 20, 20164 votes

Honestly, it's also Riot's fail with Thresh, since because of his animations he appears to have melee attacks when very close.

Agree with the issue though. People can't read for shit these days.

ChatillonJan 20, 20164 votes

but AD thresh is the greatest counter to yas since annie

Thresh : your pathetic windwall means nothing

SpecterVonBarenJan 21, 20161 votes

Bitch please, AD Vel'Koz is where it's at.

ChatillonJan 21, 20161 votes

I played an ARAM as crit vel'koz, yes i rushed statik

one of my teammates were like 'build ap, ad is terrible on vel"

fifteen minutes later I got 2 triples and proceeded to break turrets at maximum tentacle slappin' speed

The Evil SpleenJan 21, 20161 votes

{quoted}

but AD thresh is the greatest counter to yas since annie

: your pathetic windwall means nothing

Kayle 's E "appears" on the target so windwall does nothing to stop it. I love picking Kayle into Yasuo :D

7Artemis7Jan 20, 20164 votes

That's why I start item 3301 when I play Thresh. I main support because I'm bad at lasthitting, I'm not going to inflict on myself the pain of trying to lasthit the cannon while fighting the unaware ADC for it.

MorcleonJan 20, 20162 votes

Yeah, starting item 3301 works better when you're still getting used to Thresh's AA damage. Once you get better though, go ahead and upgrade. ^.^

Only Play DariusJan 21, 20161 votes

I thought that Relic shield would be better for new Thresh players, since Thresh is squishy early game so the extra HP helps them out whIle they learn the champion

Sona PingJan 21, 20161 votes

Nah, coin should be better, I imagine, because it offers regen and new players are bad at managing their resources. In addition to being bad at last hitting

5000000000000000Jan 21, 20161 votes

You're supposed to use the E passive damage to get the last hits more easily. Although, that means that you give up on good poke damage.

P0IS0N IVYJan 21, 20161 votes

I don't want to give up my poke damage and 90% of the time my adc hits the cannon anyway so. ;__;

WestonbirtJan 20, 20163 votes

I thought this was common knowledge. People were bitching about it a while back.

Sona PingJan 21, 20161 votes

It's not among "certain groups". The boards still get unformatted bug reports about it with titles like "terrible relic shield bug riot pls fix". And inside, they say nothing other than a claim that Relic Shield doesn't work at all.

So you look at their game to try and find any info at all about it and see there last game was with Thresh.

Pecha BerryJan 20, 20162 votes

I'll still use it on thresh either way. Now if only the ADC will stop hitting the canon long enough for me to last hit properly... JK I've had plenty of ADCs that weren't brain dead. Some of them doe.

[slayer-jinx-unamused]

AnihakuJan 20, 20162 votes

Some even will ping the minion too. I'm like........yes, don't mind if I do :D

[slayer-jinx-catface]

AmetDeCryptJan 21, 20161 votes

mmm that 45 shared gold.

FistOfSharkieshaJan 20, 20162 votes

Thresh also can't use Runan's hurricane, so it seem like he's basically considered neither ranged nor melee at this point.

I would never blame someone who didn't know this because it's entirely Riot's fault. It's a clarity issue.

CrazedPorcupineJan 20, 20162 votes

Actually, Riot fixed that. Or at least they said they did.

Deep Terror NamiJan 20, 201611 votes

It actually does proc Runaan's. There was probably a point at where he didn't, but it's fixed now.

https://i.gyazo.com/32d5b587dc53985e3dc8ffa33d540d93.gif

FistOfSharkieshaJan 20, 20161 votes

Ah interesting. When I tried it I don't think he could even buy it. It gave the |Ranged only| description in red.

Deep Terror NamiJan 20, 20161 votes

Ok, that was the time where they forgot to tag his attacks.

kaltenashesJan 21, 20161 votes

this bug prob was by the same time when shy couldnt use item 3074 , i never bought it on her anyway

1 800 MID LANEJan 21, 20161 votes

I'm going to do full attack speed Thresh now. That animation looks like it'd be hilarious.

MatezoideJan 20, 20162 votes

Who cares? He has that unnecessary passive on his E that basically gives him the execute passive anyway.

Deep Terror NamiJan 20, 20162 votes

Ah, the point isn't to give him the execute, the point is to make it clear that he doesn't. Did you read it? The difference between his Flay damage and having the execute is pretty huge.

MatezoideJan 20, 20163 votes

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Ah, the point isn't to give him the execute, the point is to make it clear that he doesn't. Did you read it? The difference between his Flay damage and having the execute is pretty huge.

Was just a shitpost/shit joke/whining, dont mind me.

Deep Terror NamiJan 20, 20162 votes

ah k

SpecterVonBarenJan 20, 20162 votes

Red text seems to be reserved for showing that an ability scales with health though.

Deep Terror NamiJan 20, 20162 votes

They already use red for Hydra/Runaan's showing Melee/Ranged only. For Health scaling it's more of an orange.

Chaotic SageJan 21, 20161 votes

Isn't orange also sometimes used for AD scaling on skills though? I could be wrong, but I thought that was the case.

OyddAWqJ5rJan 20, 20162 votes

But red text means it scales with hp!! I MUST HAVE TO BUILD HP TO PROC RELIC! kappa

Summonerrr 1Jan 21, 20162 votes

People who can't last hit properly get confused. Add that thresh's E passive is basically "here, let us help you last hit" and you have a bunch of scrubs, and only scrubs who get 'confused'

OwltearsJan 20, 20161 votes

I've had a MF use Relic Shield, all she had to do was use her E- or which ever is her "Make-It-Rain" ability, auto attack with her hit a second person ability, and I think her Ult all proc-ed it.

Photos of GhostsJan 20, 201614 votes

It doesn't "proc it". Relic Shield has two passives. An execute and a heal+gold share. The execute is melee only. The other one is on last-hit, including with the execute if you're melee.

MaratsuneJan 20, 20161 votes

... this explains a lot. /I feel dumb now

AlëkJan 21, 20161 votes

Is there a reason why Poppy's passive interacts with Spoils like a melee? Its technically an empowered ranged auto-attack, so why doesn't it apply like a ranged attack would. Why does it execute minions below 200 hp like a normal melee AA. (This is not a nerf poppy support post plz. Just curiosity)

Deep Terror NamiJan 21, 20161 votes

It's the same type of rule as Gangplank's Parrrley. There's no technicality about it, it's just designed that way. If you want to ask literally why they made that decision, idk. You'd have to bug Meddler to get the answer or something.