How the discussion over Mastery 6/7 implementation went.

Deep Terror Nami·May 19, 2016·214 votes·8,515 views

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61 Comments

esmelarMay 19, 2016101 votes

Riot: Introducing Mastery Level 8, with only 1000 RIP points it comes with a skin of your favorite champion! Me: Uh Is that RP or IP ? Riot: Exactly!

Count ZubatMay 19, 201675 votes

These are RIP points because you'd rather kill yourself than try to get this mastery level.

General Esdeath May 19, 20161 votes

It comes with the base skin for your champ but recolored.

RadiatedApplesMay 19, 20163 votes

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It comes with the base skin for your champ but recolored.

Nightmare Chogath (Though it's my favorite cho skin)

General Esdeath May 19, 20161 votes

I liked the splash but the new model looks weird with the skin

Fondling GemsMay 20, 20161 votes

Naw, they full on cheapskate it and give a mystery skin. Why actually provide new skins?

Wukong X AhriMay 19, 201649 votes

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Best Kog NAMay 19, 20162 votes

I like your name

Wukong X AhriMay 19, 20164 votes

I like your name too. I mean just look at that face how could you not love him.

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Best Kog NAMay 20, 20161 votes

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KnalxzMay 19, 201622 votes

That guy really has amazing health care.

Lt StrekoMay 19, 201634 votes

Must live in Canada.

billxxMay 19, 20165 votes

Damn right he does

SkyBlade79May 19, 20169 votes

My mom's Canadian, and she says that the health care there is really bad. Her parents still live in Canada, and they're aging and have to be put on waiting lists for semi-urgent problems that could be fixed in a day. Don't buy into "free healthcare is good".

HexaDecimelMay 19, 201615 votes

There are three options, Good Health Care, Fast Health Care, and Cheap Health Care, but you can only have two of them. If you want good and fast it won't be cheap, if you want fast and cheap it won't be good, and if you want good and cheap it won't be fast. Canada has a good system that works for a lot of people, but as with everything it is not perfect. People in Canada face the potential of having to sometimes wait longer then they would like, while people in the USA face the issue of not being able to afford the high costs if they are not covered.

PokkuMay 19, 20161 votes

So true! Here in Finland we have the combination of good and cheap, but it is indeed slow... Now we're trying to reform it to allow for more competition. Let's see if we end up with more combinations, or even all three at once to be the first exception to the rule! http://res.cloudinary.com/urbandictionary/image/upload/a_exif,c_fit,h_200,w_200/v1395991705/gjn81wvxqsq6yzcwubok.png

SevixysMay 19, 20161 votes

Yeh, the waiting though.. At least it's free :3 #kelakorvaa

GawnMowerMay 19, 20161 votes

Hehe there is that exact same phrase in my local chinese

BaculusMay 19, 20161 votes

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There are three options, Good Health Care, Fast Health Care, and Cheap Health Care, but you can only have two of them. If you want good and fast it won't be cheap, if you want fast and cheap it won't be good, and if you want good and cheap it won't be fast. Canada has a good system that works for a lot of people, but as with everything it is not perfect. People in Canada face the potential of having to sometimes wait longer then they would like, while people in the USA face the issue of not being able to afford the high costs if they are not covered.

The additional costs we pay do not make our healthcare any better on average. Our wait periods are also not that fast (you can expect to wait four to six months for an appointment with many things).

Flame of PassionMay 20, 20161 votes

Why the hell are we talking about canadian healthcare???

Battlecast SonaMay 19, 20164 votes

I'd prefer that to being able to get into the hospital today but owing the hospital 8000 dollars.

When did "faster" become "better" to America?

Nik NikersonMay 19, 20161 votes

I'm not saying it is or is not "better", but when you're in a lot of pain, faster does tend to be the preferable option.

Battlecast SonaMay 19, 20161 votes

yeah, but the current state of medical health in America means my option is actually "go into life-crippling debt" or "don't go to the doctor", so I'll take Canada's deal any day of the week thanks

Nik NikersonMay 20, 20161 votes

You should get insurance.

Face The SunMay 19, 201614 votes

oh god my sides!

NB moneyMay 19, 201612 votes

I almost down voted this then realized i it was just miss directed anger...

Vistha KaiMay 19, 20166 votes

Considering who OP is, I find it ironic.

The requirements for Level 6:

an S rank for the Mastery 5 champion you wish to raise mastery of. ~~- an S rank for a completely unrelated Mastery 5 champion.~~ and
2/3 champion shards worth of blue essence or
a champion shard for the champion you wish to raise mastery of or
a champion permanent shard for the champion you wish to raise mastery of

As is now, champion mastery is basically 33% champion mastery, 33% of grind and 33% of pure RNG, because of which you may virtually NEVER unlock the next mastery level.

Not that I'm complaining, but for example about after like 10 chests, I got only one champion shard.

Battlecast SonaMay 19, 20161 votes

when you get further S ranks with the mastery champ (after getting the required mastery tokens) you get tokens you can use for essence... They at least seem to want to incentivize you playing the same champ, I just hope that it gets cleaned up a bit.

Vistha KaiMay 19, 20161 votes

In other words, it's not a one-time deal and you can keep on getting tokens for the same champion?

If that's so, then I guess, I can work with that.

Mai Waifu IreliaMay 19, 20162 votes

"an S rank for a completely unrelated Mastery 5 champion" Wot Either I'm super confused or you're super confused or its worded badly, but you don't need an S rank on a different champion to upgrade one you want. In the simplest way possible for my mastery upgrade experience

played irelia
got 2x S- (so two tokens)
upgrade to 6 with essence
played irelia
got S, S and then S+ (three tokens)
upgrade to 7 with essence

Ulquiorra995May 19, 20161 votes

You need S ran on other champions to get a chest. Either that or you have to open your wallet.

Either way, this "mastery" system has near zero ties to actually mastering a champion.

Vistha KaiMay 19, 20161 votes

At least now it requires an actually good performance with a champion to advance.

That is something.

Deep Terror NamiMay 19, 20161 votes

I'm not sure what's ironic about it. I'm not personally having any issues getting it, but the rewards are still crap and people who can't earn Hextech loot can't earn the tokens from what I've heard.

- an S rank for a completely unrelated Mastery 5 champion. and

You get tokens specific to the champion you earn it on only.

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Hard PenetratorMay 19, 20163 votes

It looks so poorly because mastery system and hextech system were mixed without any valid reason. I mean it looks grindy but ppl with 200-400k points into 1 champion pretty much covered all grind you should do for this f mastery lvl. Only way this would get any worse is if they somehow obligated you to play every day for better results or higher chance of gaining something.

Explanation how to get higher mastery lvl were as simple as Jhin passive.

revliledpembrokeMay 19, 20163 votes

"Hey, why don't we just copy the mastery system from Smite, and allow them to get a skin at ranks 1,5, and 10?"

Ulquiorra995May 19, 20162 votes

"You mean give players up to 3 recolor skins they can acquire without paying real money? Why do so when we can sell them?"

Still, there could've been a way to reward mastery even without giving skins. Icons, borders, anything. But no - they had to tie it to a crafting system. So in order to master a champion you have to play almost exclusively other champions to get chests OR shell out real money. This is "mastery" only in name now - it has ZERO ties to actually mastering a champion.

Faceroll TacticsMay 19, 20162 votes

I say we start a movement to intentionally boycott mastery level 6 and 7! Break the System! Make a Difference! Mage update made Vladimir a worthless champion so I'll never get my favorite champ to 7! Yeah!

DorkunedAurasMay 19, 20161 votes

aside from how solid vlad is right now?

Faceroll TacticsMay 20, 20161 votes

Lol. New vlad is awful, they removed his core item and gave him the "Gypsylord syndrome" where he must have a three hit ability somewhere in his kit. He went from a sustain heal sustain damage front line mage (the only of his kind) into someone you can literally ignore in fights, he has no impact anymore.

NazZomLordMay 19, 20162 votes

I just learned of lvl 6 last night and that i needed two S's to get it. I got it within 2 games... ;/

ALthaGreatMay 19, 20161 votes

Lmfao!!! that poor guy!!! (

RenascentMay 19, 20161 votes

I wonder if John knows that people are using his comic as a meme.

The Ender CobraMay 19, 20161 votes

I used this picture first For my give morde a rework meme

RogueWillMay 20, 20161 votes

I think it should be based on number of games played and the number of S ranked achieved. It should be something like 100 S ranked and 100k mastery points to level 6. And like 500 S rank and 250K for level 7

RyzeReworkMay 20, 20161 votes

Lol I think ur high I've won about 500 norm games the 4 years I've been playing

RogueWillMay 20, 20161 votes

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Lol I think ur high I've won about 500 norm games the 4 years I've been playing

Well...that is what I consider mastering a champion

RyzeReworkMay 21, 20161 votes

Lol it takes an average of 120 games to mastery a champion so maybe 50 games after mastery 5

RogueWillMay 21, 20161 votes

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Lol it takes an average of 120 games to mastery a champion so maybe 50 games after mastery 5

50 S games sounds high enough for me. Wonder if people actually get S ranking often thou