Norms really arent worth playing with this matchmaking system.

BlackRoseNoble·Feb 26, 2018·1 votes·544 views

Im a bronze player. I shouldnt be getting matched with Golds and up. Silver - maybe - but how is someone going to get better before they go in to ranked and risk their LP? I would use ranked as my learning tool - since it seems to be better at matching people you play with/against that are close to your skill level, but I get flamed for feeding and reported for doing that. I would use practice tool, but it only uses bots. bots dont help you get better at the game, i need to play actual games against people around my skill level to get better.

Another thing that bothers me is smurfs - so even if I wanted to learn in rank and there wasnt the flaming and reporting when i'm trying to learn, I still have had games where its like a gold or plat smurf in bronze literally just ruining my day and dumpstering me.

Why is this a thing? Why is the matchmaking system so incredibly far reaching in Norms? Why are smurfs allowed to happen? It seriously doesn't make sense to me. Why is there not an IP rule with accounts? Like one account per IP? Honestly, I've been thinking hat wouldnt be such a bad idea. It makes bans more serious and would help with people who leave games, troll, botting/boosters or smurfs - protecting the integrity of the game and allowing for people TO LEARN. There are other game modes to go have fun and mess around in which could totally allow for the wider spectrum of matchmaking skill levels. There's aram and the like. I personally think things like this are jut toxic and it pushes me away from enjoying the game. Playing league becomes less and less like a game where i can progress and more and more like a game where you never can grow or get better unless you just bite the bullet and accept that all these "riot fixable" things are just not going to change. The only argument I can think of for this is that some people enjoy smurfing - or how will a higher elo player be able to play with their friends. Honestly, the latter is a good one to think about, and my proposed solution to that is flex. Flex should be a way for you to team up with your friends and grow together, as I'm pretty sure that was the intention to begin with. maybe even adding a flex normals along with an IP account association.

This is just a poposed solution to what I think is one of the biggest problems in league as far as matchmaking goes, but I know Riot has probably thought about similar solutions but haven't done it. So, is this not a problem they are concerned with? Is it some type of moral stance they are taking with not limiting players to do what they want? I'm lost at this point. All I want to do is improve and get better but I feel completely incapable of growth at this point without pissing people off or just dying double digits in games with smurfs and higher elo players that are way better than me.

((after writing this i realised that i always solo queue....could that b why im gettign people way higher than me due to me not queuing with other players in my elo?))

Not really sure where to post this so im putting this in gameplay.

10 Comments

ZephyrDrakeFeb 26, 20181 votes

normal MMR and ranked MMR are two entirely different things. If you want to be matched with people around your skill lvl go play ranked. Normals is for people to screw around, have fun and try new things... while still trying to win and not troll obviously (if they troll report them). You can face people in challenger while playing normal games, simply because they just don't play normals that much and just go there to try out something new

BlackRoseNobleFeb 26, 20181 votes

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normal MMR and ranked MMR are two entirely different things. If you want to be matched with people around your skill lvl go play ranked. Normals is for people to screw around, have fun and try new things... while still trying to win and not troll obviously (if they troll report them). You can face people in challenger while playing normal games, simply because they just don't play normals that much and just go there to try out something new

The key words there are "try new things". The entire premise of this post is literally having a problem with that concept of people just screwing around and why you can't really try to go learn in ranked with people your skill level because you will get reported for feeding when you are learning an champ you have no experience on and feed. People will see that as inting in bronze. There are other games you can go in to "just screw around". I believe i referenced this. ARAM

ZephyrDrakeFeb 26, 20181 votes

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The key words there are "try new things". The entire premise of this post is literally having a problem with that concept of people just screwing around and why you can't really try to go learn in ranked with people your skill level because you will get reported for feeding when you are learning an champ you have no experience on and feed. People will see that as inting in bronze. There are other games you can go in to "just screw around". I believe i referenced this. ARAM

ARAM doesn't really do a good job on teaching you much of anything other than "this champion is this good in teamfights" and "this is what the abilities of this champion does". It doesn't really help you in anything that is laning phase related or how many matchups go, how useful the champion is in a splitpush scenario, how quick can this champion roam. Items are also a big difference at times since some champions do not build anywhere near the same in ARAM as they do in SR games so proper build paths are also not learn at all really

BlackRoseNobleFeb 26, 20181 votes

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ARAM doesn't really do a good job on teaching you much of anything other than "this champion is this good in teamfights" and "this is what the abilities of this champion does". It doesn't really help you in anything that is laning phase related or how many matchups go, how useful the champion is in a splitpush scenario, how quick can this champion roam. Items are also a big difference at times since some champions do not build anywhere near the same in ARAM as they do in SR games so proper build paths are also not learn at all really

right, but its still a "try new things concept", plus there are ither things like twisted treeline for the other things like splitpushing. point being, and even if that was the case where they wanted to test builds to see how the builds worked then why wouldnt you want to use it in a matchup with people of your elo or skill level? that makes no sense unless you just are wanting to troll.

ZephyrDrakeFeb 26, 20181 votes

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right, but its still a "try new things concept", plus there are ither things like twisted treeline for the other things like splitpushing. point being, and even if that was the case where they wanted to test builds to see how the builds worked then why wouldnt you want to use it in a matchup with people of your elo or skill level? that makes no sense unless you just are wanting to troll.

someone is really salty and is taking normals way too seriously. Go play rakned and nothing else. Heck go and do the exact same things you are suggesting here since they seem to be such great alternatives... oh you won't do that you just want to complain about a stress free mode where people mainly go there to have fun and screw around and try new things being "imbalanced"... sorry but what?

PaintchipFeb 26, 20181 votes

Most of the “golds” I get stuck with, account shared to get boosted for the border and season rewards. Cuz if they are what gold players are skillwise, there is zero reason for me to still be in bronze.

I just report them under the cheating option and explain they account shared and move on.

lolibusFeb 26, 20181 votes

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how is someone going to get better before they go in to ranked and risk their LP?

That's not how ranked works. You are bronze anyway, what is there to risk? People don't care if you are bronze 1 or 5, you are still bronze to them. It can only get better the more you play. I don't play normals anymore for that reason, it's too unbalanced unless you wanna play around with people in your friendlist or whatever.

BlackRoseNobleFeb 26, 20181 votes

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That's not how ranked works. You are bronze anyway, what is there to risk? People don't care if you are bronze 1 or 5, you are still bronze to them. It can only get better the more you play. I don't play normals anymore for that reason, it's too unbalanced unless you wanna play around with people in your friendlist or whatever.

i really wish people would read the whole thing before commenting. Again, if you go to ranked to learn YOU GET REPORTED IF YOU DONT DO WELL because people say you int. this happens literally ALL THE TIME.

lolibusMar 10, 20181 votes

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i really wish people would read the whole thing before commenting. Again, if you go to ranked to learn YOU GET REPORTED IF YOU DONT DO WELL because people say you int. this happens literally ALL THE TIME.

and? you can't be banned for playing bad no matter how many reports you get, people do that just because they are salty

mute all would help aswell in your case since you seem to focus too much on what the other people do, soloq is all about your own play