Riot you said in the patch notes that you want to preserve Vayne's late game

Trump4Prison2020··4 votes·500 views

But all you did was remove 3 AD from her. She will have 3 less AD in the early game which is your intention but then she'll still have 3 less AD in the late game. What happened to the increase in scaling AD that was on PBE?

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Garens Harem4 votes

overdosing on my daily dose of gd

JustMyBassCannon1 votes

Any dose is an overdose when it comes to GD

Ràinbow3 votes

"I could've killed him if I only had 3 more ad!" - Said no one ever.

Trump4Prison20201 votes

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"I could've killed him if I only had 3 more ad!" - Said no one ever.

Because no one has ever lost a duel against someone while they have 1-10 health left

Ràinbow1 votes

But have you ever heard anybody say that they wish they had 3 more AD after said duel?

Trump4Prison20201 votes

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But have you ever heard anybody say that they wish they had 3 more AD after said duel?

They don't need to verbalize it for it to be true

WarlockLaw1 votes

Normally I see things like 'if I only hadn't misclicked that minion' or 'if I had just hit that minion' or 'if I had only dodged your skillshot'

Unlucky Number72 votes

they decided that it wasn't needed.

Penns2 votes

No one cares about 3 AD on Vayne after 10 minutes, basically.

Vistha Kai2 votes

Downvote all you want, but OP is objectively right.

Rito said Vayne's late game is fine and she needs a slight nerf early game. So they nerfed both.

Riot just lied through their teeth and you completely ignored the fact, because it's Vayne.

Sightless665 votes

It's 3 AD. It doesn't even matter late game. It barely matters early game. Yeah, it's "technically" a nerf, but realistically it's not going to change anything, so it's not worth caring about.

Vistha Kai2 votes

There is no "technically", just technically.

It is a nerf to her late, period. The scope of the nerf is not the topic of this discussion.

Sightless663 votes

The scope of the nerf matters a lot. Her lategame is functionally the same because the nerf is small enough as to be irrelevant. Her lategame is "preserved" just like OP wants.

The nerf to her lategame changes nothing about her. Period.

Vistha Kai1 votes

See, this is the problem.

You get facts and dispel them just like that, because of their scope or because they hurt your argument.

Sightless663 votes

Dude, I'm not ignoring a fact. I'm saying her lategame is effectively the same. She was technically nerfed, but it's so small it doesn't matter. It's almost completely irrelevant. Her lategame will be exactly as good as it was, because the nerf doesn't matter.

This is core to the entire point. OP bitches about Vayne's lategame being nerfed, and I'm pointing out that the nerf doesn't matter. I'm not saying it didn't happen. I'm not ignoring shit. It just doesn't matter.

What's your argument? What point are you trying to make? That a nerf technically happened? Yes, we all know that. We're past that. I'm making the point that the nerf changes nothing significant about her. Do you have anything to dispute that?

Seriously man, do you actually think I'm not aware that her AD going down by 3 is technically a nerf? Dude, come on. I'm arguing that it doesn't matter, and it doesn't. If you think it does matter, say why.

Trebbi1 votes

She doesnt need lategame buffs?

Trump4Prison20201 votes

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She doesnt need lategame buffs?

But does she need lategame nerfs?

Mecha MaIphite2 votes

3 AD doesn't make a difference by the time late game swings by. It's like -0.5% damage.

Sightless662 votes

Better question: Is losing 3 AD actually a significant nerf late game?

Nah. Doesn't matter.

Crett1 votes

Good

JustMyBassCannon1 votes

They figured that she doesn't actually need that 3 AD in the late-game.

In other words, the 3 AD adjusted her early game by the degree they wanted right now without affecting her late game in any significant manner. They found this acceptable before moving into the Marksman update coming either in the next patch or the patch after that.

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