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Tired of seeing people say flash is op and needs to be nerfed

DaCush·11/2/2014, 1:28:46 AM·5 votes·1,926 views

The only thing that would clarify a summoner spell as OP is if there was another summoner spell that did the same thing but better (aka heal and barrier). It's not the same thing as a champion being more OP than another champ because every single champ can use flash and everyone utilizes flash the same way. This game is balanced around flash. Flash is one of the most fun, play making abilities in this game.......and everyone can use it. Why nerf it or change it? That's like saying smite is OP because every single jungler takes it and if you don't take it, you are risking the game because every single baron and dragon and buff can be stolen from you or you won't ever be able to stop a team from taking one.

The only thing that needs to be done regarding summoner spells is to give other summoner spells their own cliche, or give them more power/less CD. Barrier is too similar to Heal, and Heal does everything barrier does but better. It needs its own cliche. Clairvoyance, cleanse, revive, and clarity also need buffs to their cds/power or need to be reworked entirely(revive).

We have great diversity in summoner spells. Every match you will most likely see flash, smite, heal, exhaust, ignite, and tp. Every single match you will see all of them. Ghost is more so used for certain niche champions.

You want more diversity with spells? Please. You think more diversity in spells with make matches more exciting/interesting? Please. Nothing is more interesting than an epic flash play you didn't see coming or an epic flash play that you executed yourself and feel like a badass. There seriously is no reason for flash to be nerfed/removed/changed. Guys are acting like flash is a champion and it isn't fair or something. >.>

EDIT: You guys are twisting my words. Of course it would be OP in a general sense if there was a summoner spell that one shotted anyone but I would classify that as unfair to the gameplay and fun of the game rather than OP because everyone can pick it. Everyone is classifying it as OP because it is picked over other summoner spells which is a horrible argument. You should be arguing that it is OP because it breaks the game and makes it unfair which it doesn't. The game is balanced around flash so it isn't unfair and unfun but rather the opposite. A game without flash woyld make champs without mobility extremely underpowered and would effect the diversity of champs by an enormous volume. I wouldn't care if other summoner spells were able to be as playmaking as flash but flash itself is fine.

18 Comments

ChargeItDownMid11/2/2014, 1:51:18 AM4 votes

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Hayaishi11/2/2014, 1:58:42 AM2 votes

No, Flash is OP and needs to be removed.

But it won't because Riot has already balanced this game around it. So champions are allowed to have ridiculous stuff because flash counters it.

Terchio11/2/2014, 3:55:50 AM2 votes

The reason Flash is OP is that even though some champions are particularly strong with it (unlike most Summoner Spells, actually), it's still extremely strong on champions without any discernible synergy as well. Some thought should go into Summoner Spell choice, and even you admit, OP, that there isn't any.

Also, balancing skills on CD/whatever is what you call nerfing or buffing. That's exactly what that is. I am not sure why you think the most popular spell doesn't need nerfing, but something else deserves the nerfbat? Yeah, not getting it.

Pinker 1011/2/2014, 9:23:28 PM2 votes

The only thing that would clarify a summoner spell as OP is if there was another summoner spell that did the same thing but better (aka heal and barrier)

Flash is op because if you don't take it everyone who does is at a huge advantage for pretty much any situiation.

We have great diversity in summoner spells. Every match you will most likely see flash, smite, heal, exhaust, ignite, and tp. Every single match you will see all of them. Ghost is more so used for certain niche champions.

So 8x flash 1x ghost 2x smite 2x ignite 1x exhaust 2x heal 1x tp or 10x flash 2x tp 2x ignite 2x heal 2x exhaust 2x smite is diversity? I think you might need to look that word up.

flash itself is fine.

Riot has said multiple times flash is a broken concept they lack the ability to balance. Hence why they gave up.

bunies11/3/2014, 9:28:57 AM1 votes

here is how you know flash is op, you can not play without it 99.99999999 of non retarded people in this game use flash ( the remainder is preaty much PL when runing revive teleport), there is absolutely no summoner spell that can compare to it

PS. in dota to have equvalent of flash you need to spend the same amount as for equvalent of teleport and 1 extra item slot ( because boots of mobility are boots where dagger is seperate item )

Centuros11/2/2014, 2:04:22 AM1 votes

Smite IS OP, though.

Not quite as OP as Flash, though, since only junglers can use it well.

For real though, there was a point in time that Heal was OP and had to be nerfed, even though Barrier didn't exist yet.

AtheosisX11/2/2014, 4:57:53 AM1 votes

I'm fine with where Flash is at. We just need more spells to be brought up to par so the choice isn't so automatic for nearly every champion.

MrSlowDie11/2/2014, 5:24:38 AM1 votes

I am okay with flash, let it be, all we need just more champions that benefit more from ghost