So today I faced a brand who had 3,7k hp and 800 AP

superfire444··3 votes·666 views

I was leblanc and we both had 6 items build. I had 2,3k hp and only 700 AP

Seems legit when building hp is more AP than building straight damage

edit: his build got him 480 AP + 1200 health (no runes, or extra AP just raw AP from items) while mine gave me 430 AP + 0 health

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Serevas3 votes

Well let's look at your builds

LB: item 3165 item 3089 item 3135 item 3157 item 3020 item 3102

Brand: item 3027 item 3116 item 3151 item 3089 item 3020 item 3135

Gee I wonder why he had more AP than you when he built zero defensive items and items that had more AP to them anyway. They had two dragons, which ones? Was one of them infernal perhaps?

Let's look at the base values. 100 from Rod, 100 from Rylais, 120 from deathcap, 80 from Liandry's, and 80 from Void staff. Totals at 480 without runes, masteries, dragons, etc.

100 from Morello, 120 from Deathcap, 80 from void staff, 70 from Zhonyas, 0 from Banshee's Veil. Totals at 370. If you needed a defensive item you should have gone Abyssal, it would have given you the CDR cap and some further MR shred at the very least.

superfire4441 votes

I had abyssal but brand one shot me through that..... and stil he has more effective health even when i have more resistances

Serevas1 votes

Maybe you shouldn't have been trying to burst the brand? I don't recall what other champions were in the game, but idk, with that much hp you're not going to blow him up.

idk though I'm just a normal playing pleb, but with that much hp I'd have avoided brand like the plague.

superfire4441 votes

Thats my point... why bother with my build when brands build has more tankyness and damage....

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

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Thats my point... why bother with my build when brands build has more tankyness and damage....

lol ok so if you both built the exact same items he will still have more ap then you at lvl 18

why you ask?

LEBLANC does not scale Brand does LEBLANC is all about pre lvl 7 if she gets feds and get items and gets ahead she cant be stopped. if she is even or behind after lvl 7 she will not scale late and will not have the damage output of other ap mid champs. thats the trade off you get when you take a an early game dominate champ.

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

superfire4441 votes

Im laughing so hard right now at this bullshit.

First of all AP is only bought not a scaleable stat like AD so your first point doesn't make sense.

Secondly you never played leblanc. She is super strong mid game if you don't fuck up csing because she will assassinate all the squishies. Lategame too but it's more difficult since teams are grouped. Her damage doesn't fall off unless you're massively behind. Leblanc scales super hard into late game but most people don't know how to play her in the lategame.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

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Im laughing so hard right now at this bullshit.

First of all AP is only bought not a scaleable stat like AD so your first point doesn't make sense.

Secondly you never played leblanc. She is super strong mid game if you don't fuck up csing because she will assassinate all the squishies. Lategame too but it's more difficult since teams are grouped. Her damage doesn't fall off unless you're massively behind. Leblanc scales super hard into late game but most people don't know how to play her in the lategame.

Leblanc

Q: MAGIC DAMAGE: 55 / 80 / 105 / 130 / 155 (+ 40% AP) E: MAGIC DAMAGE: 85 / 125 / 165 / 205 / 245 (+ 60% AP) W: MAGIC DAMAGE: 40 / 65 / 90 / 115 / 140 (+ 50% AP) R: MIMIC: SIGIL OF MALICE MAGIC DAMAGE: 100 / 200 / 300 (+ 60% AP) Mimic- Distortion MIMIC: DISTORTION MAGIC DAMAGE: 150 / 300 / 450 (+ 90% AP) Mimic- Ethereal Chains MIMIC: ETHEREAL CHAINS MAGIC DAMAGE: 100 / 200 / 300 (+ 60% AP)

Brand Q: MAGIC DAMAGE: 80 / 110 / 140 / 170 / 200 (+ 55% AP) E: MAGIC DAMAGE: 75 / 120 / 165 / 210 / 255 (+ 60% AP) W: MAGIC DAMAGE: 70 / 90 / 110 / 130 / 150 (+ 35% AP) R: MAGIC DAMAGE: 100 / 200 / 300 (+ 25% AP)

lets say the both have 100 ap

Leblanc Q would do 55+40=90 at one rank Brand Q would do 80+55=135 at one rank

Leblanc Q would do 155+40 = 195 at max rank Brand Q would do 200+55= 255 at max rank a difference of 60AP

as you can see by the base damage per rank Leblanc has lower scaling through out the game as she levels up abilites. this is not accounting for brands passive/or dot damage. on their 3 basic abilties brand has higher scaling on all 3 and higher ap ratio on Q equal on E and less on w but having higher base damage.

this shows the scaling of the abilties per rank

soo yes i guess i must be stupid.

superfire4441 votes

You are stupid because you forgot her Q can be procced for another Q damage.... basically you need to double her Q damage and scaling so it's higher than brands

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

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You are stupid because you forgot her Q can be procced for another Q damage.... basically you need to double her Q damage and scaling so it's higher than brands

man you got me you played the far superior champ and still lost, still got out damaged. hmm sooo stupid

Serevas1 votes

Because Brand can afford to play the scaling game where LeBlanc needs to do things earlier and affect other lanes. Brand can just wait for team fights and ult to blow up the entire team.

Vistha Kai2 votes

You did get a item 3102 and item 3157.

That alone made you have at least 90 AP less than him.

superfire4441 votes

item 3001 was swapped for item 3102 thats how I come to 430 vs 480 AP

Marshbouy2 votes

Yep. He had no resistances. Get your ADC to hit him with 3 shots and he's dead.

Dynikus1 votes

I don't understand what your point is. Yes, building ap and health items will give you ap and health. Are you going to complain that jhin had more ad than you, or sion had more mr and armor than you?

Also your build gave you 500 ap, 300 health, 70 mr, 45 armor, and 400 mana. his build gave him 648 ap, 1200 health, and 400 mana.

Calabok1 votes

you just suck and probably let him ult you when your passive engaged.

Reikken1 votes

looking at the posts below, we can compare

brand's build advantages: health, slow, DoT your build advantages: CDR, resists, defensive abilities

The main differences here are CDR and resists vs health. If you don't value CDR, don't build it.

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