How in the WORLD the WOOORLD has draven NOT been nerfed yet?

RAINBOW GUMDROPS·Mar 14, 2018·15 votes·2,600 views

UNACCEPTABLE. His damage is absolutely ridiculously overpowered.

46 Comments

RAINBOW GUMDROPSMar 14, 201811 votes

His auto attack damage early game is horrendously op

BjørnetjenestenMar 15, 20189 votes

Here we go again ... after countless posts about Vayne KogMaw Tristana and Caitlyn . Its now Draven . Please start downvoting these meaningless shit posts, im so tired of seeing this circlejerk on the trending section every day...

gabetheguyMar 15, 20188 votes

nice elaboration..

sachopMar 15, 20185 votes

So you're telling me a champion that's designed to do damage and is gated by lack of mobility does a lot of damage?

BestPudgeNAMar 15, 20181 votes

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So you're telling me a champion that's designed to do damage and is gated by lack of mobility does a lot of damage?

We're telling you a sustain DPS carry is out bursting assassins and burst mages. You seem to be gated by the lack of a brain though.

Yaśuo MainMar 15, 20184 votes

He is doing a lot of damage because he's supposed to. Him doing more than assassins and burst mages isn't a Draven problem, if you could even call it that and not false statements.

Kinpin Mar 15, 20183 votes

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We're telling you a sustain DPS carry is out bursting assassins and burst mages. You seem to be gated by the lack of a brain though.

U clearly don't know what ur talking about.

sachopMar 16, 20181 votes

The only way he outbursts assassins and burst mages is if he's fed. I don't know why this is so difficult to grasp, but if someone is 4000+ gold ahead of you, they should do more damage than you, almost regardless of their kit.

BestPudgeNAMar 16, 20181 votes

{quoted} The only way he outbursts assassins and burst mages is if he's fed. I don't know why this is so difficult to grasp, but if someone is 4000+ gold ahead of you, they should do more damage than you, almost regardless of their kit.

At level 13 with 3 items. 2 Draven Axe autos+R+W will do 2400 Damage armor runes ect At level 13 with 3 items. A Zed R triple Q E will do about 2050 damage before runes ect

sachopMar 18, 20181 votes

That's an over exaggeration. There's no way two Draven autos do as much damage as a Zed combo at equal gold.

thiccvirginloli7Mar 15, 20185 votes

This is a troll right? Because this can't be a serious opinion lmao. As much as I hate saying this to people, just shut the fuck up, build tabis first item and he becomes useless. But then again I don't know if this is a troll or not, +1 bait.

Sex With AnnieMar 15, 20185 votes

Wow its almost as if he's like a lane bully what in the fuck?

341123545652Mar 14, 20184 votes

Playerbase: wait you reworked talon but this champion just throws two axes at you with shiv followed by immediate R and 100-0s any single squi... aw who even cares at this point.

Short answer: Meathead mains him with 30k viewers and constantly screams about how bad draven is and how underpowered the ADC role is

Long answer: Meathead mains him with 30k viewers and constantly screams about how bad draven is and how underpowered the ADC role is

RiotRepertoozle's answer: Dunno ¯_(ツ)/¯ . Our midseason might fix it maybe ¯_(ツ)/¯

honor 5 playerMar 15, 20181 votes

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Playerbase: wait you reworked talon but this champion just throws two axes at you with shiv followed by immediate R and 100-0s any single squi... aw who even cares at this point.

Short answer: Meathead mains him with 30k viewers and constantly screams about how bad draven is and how underpowered the ADC role is

Long answer: Meathead mains him with 30k viewers and constantly screams about how bad draven is and how underpowered the ADC role is

RiotRepertoozle's answer: Dunno ¯_(ツ)/¯ . Our midseason might fix it maybe ¯_(ツ)/¯

Please dont touch the boards ever again bronze

saltranMar 15, 20184 votes

Crypost detected.

i wanna die plsMar 15, 20184 votes

get a gank heavy jg and camp him ez gg

Abraxus followerMar 15, 20184 votes

rushing tabi works wonders as well :P

honor 5 playerMar 15, 20184 votes

Bronze low elo player, please dont touch the boards again.

Its almost like he hasnt been buffed for like a year and none of decent players think hes overpowered or even a good tier adc in this meta?

Its almost like hes supposed to be a lane bully?

Its almost like hes hard to play, is super immobile, so he has a lot of damage to compensate that?

Ffs riot please make players who are only atleast Gold+ to be able to post on boards

LothloranMar 14, 20183 votes

Only if you let him farm and you don't learn how to play against him. Lock jinx against him and get a support that can disrupt his movement while he's trying to catch axes. Literally just bully him early. It's not hard.

341123545652Mar 14, 20185 votes

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Only if you let him farm and you don't learn how to play against him. Lock jinx against him and get a support that can disrupt his movement while he's trying to catch axes. Literally just bully him early. It's not hard.

Beat him with ANOTHER ADC ! WOW GENIUS !! :OOOOO

GodlyBaneMar 15, 20183 votes

i agree with you, hes extremely easy to beat, since when the axe is falling, its easy to predict where he is going, not to mention draven is a typically hard champ that not many can master or even know how to play..

Dasdi96Mar 15, 20182 votes

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Only if you let him farm and you don't learn how to play against him. Lock jinx against him and get a support that can disrupt his movement while he's trying to catch axes. Literally just bully him early. It's not hard.

Jinx will get completely destroyed in lane. There is nothing that can compete with his 120 damage autos at level 1, and 200+ when he gets his 1st item 1038

Lord of MathMar 15, 20182 votes

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will get completely destroyed in lane. There is nothing that can compete with his 120 damage autos at level 1, and 200+ when he gets his 1st

Press E or W and you can kite him, not counting supports.

ExecutionerMar 15, 20181 votes

Honestly, I get a hard on when I play against jinx as Draven.

Lord of MathMar 15, 20181 votes

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Honestly, I get a hard on when I play against jinx as Draven.

The sad thing is that recall being able to bully her too. However her rockets outrange him right? and she has better cc in her kit right?

Die For GloryMar 15, 20183 votes

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The sad thing is that recall being able to bully her too. However her rockets outrange him right? and she has better cc in her kit right?

I'm currently maining jinx and I will say that this lane is 100% in dravens favor throughout lane unless the jungler intervenes. Build dorans shield and play safe, avoid trades and poke when he goes in for cs or land a w where he wants to catch axes. But this usually won't even amount to much because if you make a single mistake in poking him and he is level 3 he will all in you for half your hp with 2-3 autos. So it's usually best to just chill and farm and try to scale. Good news is you completely shut him down out of lane as long as he didn't get fed from you or your team. But that's kinda what happens to draven anyway if he doesn't get ahead.

GelmousMar 16, 20181 votes

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Only if you let him farm and you don't learn how to play against him. Lock jinx against him and get a support that can disrupt his movement while he's trying to catch axes. Literally just bully him early. It's not hard.

oh please pick jinx, thanks for the easy lane

LothloranMar 16, 20181 votes

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oh please pick jinx, thanks for the easy lane

Jinx + Braum / Lux / Thresh / morg

Drop E where your axe is going, Auto, auto, auto, W. Support locks down again. Mechanical players who aren't retarded will always outplay draven.

GelmousMar 16, 20181 votes

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Jinx + Braum / Lux / Thresh / morg

Drop E where your axe is going, Auto, auto, auto, W. Support locks down again. Mechanical players who aren't retarded will always outplay draven.

would only work against a literal caveman, any half decent draven player would not fall for that, and even if you somehow manage to E where his axe will land not taking into account that your E takes about a second to be active the draven would simply just not grab that axe, go around your E and activate another Q instead

Sharp ChedarrMar 15, 20183 votes

Sure hes hard in lane but if he dies, hes ridiculously behind due to his passive. He might need a small nerf, but it isn't that necessary.

KaìjuMar 15, 20183 votes

Nerfing early game ADC lane bullies into the dirt is exactly how you end up with Vayne and Kog having stronger early game. You guys said the same thing about Cait and once she got nerfed Twitch really shined because a huge lane bully stopped being a lane bully.

Lord of MathMar 15, 20183 votes

As a former Draven player I can tell you that a majority of his damage comes from being ahead. Make him really work for his passive, if you know he is going to get the kill, then see if you can focus him down so that he loses his passive stacks. He is a snowballer, early jg pressure from the likes of Rammus Warwick Graves can easily make life hell for him. Not to mention having a support to make his life miserable Blitzcrank Bard . Pick one of those ADC with burst to kill him before he can kill you like Tristana MissFortune . Poke him down so he cannot go in for a trade without risking his life. Yes he is crazy strong, but only if you do not play against him properly. MasterYi Singed Mordekaiser all can do crazy shit, but have clear weaknesses.

ZepperMar 15, 20183 votes

Someone had a bad game

Meep ManMar 15, 20183 votes

The World!? THE WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORLD!?

HeresyHorusMar 15, 20181 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ePWNmLP0Z0

[slayer-pantheon-rainbows]

Vapor Wave VibesMar 14, 20182 votes

Cuz there are several adcs who are doing better than him.

Malix FarwinMar 15, 20181 votes

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Cuz there are several adcs who are doing better than him.

http://na.op.gg/champion/statistics

so 3 of 17? and those 3 are easier to play.

Vapor Wave VibesMar 15, 20182 votes

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http://na.op.gg/champion/statistics

so 3 of 17? and those 3 are easier to play.

You're just looking at winrate. Better to look at tier since that takes more things into account in which case he'd be ranked 11 out of 17.

Cowgirl EdMar 15, 20182 votes

His damage is way too high in the early game. People say "HURR BUT HES WEAK LATEGAME" ----> Wrong, two axes and everybody is dead because armor is shit and serves no purpose his damage is way too high

FOR JUSTICEMar 15, 20182 votes

he does fk tons of damage in exchange for being immobile and has a skillshot target during laning.

I Main SwainMar 15, 20182 votes

i wont say hes overpowered but he is toxic by design and his kit is almost literally impossible to make anything but feast or famine. as much as i love my old favorite adc, he should probably get a minor rework

KythersMar 15, 20182 votes

the counter to draven is the rest of your team

which is why hes op in most elos, hes hard to play though or he'd be in every game and indeed get nerfed

EídoMar 15, 20182 votes

Complaining about draven? There while there are picks like Xayah Varus and item 3047 [sg-syndra]

HyquiemMar 15, 20181 votes

Why should he, it’s not like adcs deserve an easy lane

Supreme Senpai69Mar 15, 20181 votes

Late game it's fine. Mid game too, maybe. But early game.. 30 seconds, before the minions even spawn, he can Q you for 150 HP. You only start with like.. 400 HP. Shit is so ridiculous. You can't even dodge his damage

Of course, literally all my Dravens go 0/8/0. I guess it's just the Shaco effect. Where they feed on your team but carry on the enemy team.

FOR JUSTICEMar 15, 20181 votes

that's the rule of technical champions in soloque