PBE Shaco nerf.

The Smite God·3/30/2018, 6:18:52 AM·3 votes·2,482 views

Why are they lowering shaco deceive new ad ratio from 70% bonus ad to 30%, it's quite a huge nerf after what they did to duskblade. I think they should be removing the base damage they gave to shaco +50 at 5 point in deceive, completely, and keep the ad ratio to 70% bonus ad so tank shaco doesn't stick to be a thing.

It's 70% bonus ad ratio, and shaco beside ie doesn't get ad item will lots of bonus ad. Duskblade give 55, trinity give 25, infinity edge give 70 statik shyv give none. that a total of 150 bonus ad, that 105 bonus damage to deceive as of this patch. If you remove the 50 base ad from deceive, that 105 bonus deceive damage over 155 as of patch 8.6. Now if you keep the 50 bonus damage + 30% bonus ad ratio we ar talking at 50 + 45 so 95 bonus damage on deceive. So my suggestion here is only a 10 damage difference, but make tank shaco weaker.

So the nerf Im saying right now is close to as strong as lowering the ad ratio from 70 to 30%. The reason why I am saying they should remove the base damage over lowering the bonus ad ratio, is that next patch tank shaco will be stronger then busrt shaco.

It would also be a stronger nerf to shaco level 2-4 jungle clear and ganking phase. At lvl 4 right now with 2 point in q, u get 20 bonus damage, + 70% of 11 bonus ad from rune. giving you 20 + 8 damage before your first back. Making it to with the next patch nerf to 20 + 3 before your fisrt back. So 28 vs 23, and what made shaco really strong this patch is that before, q was only a stealth dash with no damage on it, e was doing nothing early, so shaco ganking damage came from backstab and ignite only early on. Now in patch 8.6 it come from deceive, backstab and a buffed ignite. Shaco will be just as strong late game that he was in patch 8.5 in patch 8.7, and this mean he'll still be able to 100-0 adc. So Is late game will still be super strong in patch 8.7. Really what made Shaco really strong in patch 8.6 is the fact that in this patch shaco as a STRONG EARLY GAME, on top of is strong mid game and late game he already had in patch 8.5. And what they are doing next patch only remove 5 damage out of 28 from deceive before is fisrt back, so He still got a pretty strong early game that will still help him quite a lot to reach that desired mid game and late game.

With my idea of removing the base damage out of shaco deceive over the lowering of the bonus ad ratio is so that instead at lvl 4, shaco deceive does 8 damage over the 23 offered from the bonus ad ratio lowering.

It is not a whining post, I am indeed a shaco main and I find him really strong this patch and I understand fully that shaco need a nerf and I want him to be nerfed, because Im tired of dodging every promotion game because he's ether picked or banned. But the nerf they are doing with lowering the ad ratio will not lower shaco win rate at ALL, they are not doing the right nerf to Shaco, removing the base damage on deceive will be a better nerf then lowering the bonus ad ratio from 70 to 30%.

13 Comments

Infernape3/30/2018, 6:20:29 AM3 votes

Because the changes they made to him made him incredibly strong? Whenever Riot touch Shaco, they inadvertently make him broken.

Kaìju3/30/2018, 6:30:42 AM3 votes

His pickrate and winrate skyrocketed. Shaco is meant to be hard, so a higher pick and winrate means he is rewarding too much for average gameplay.

DarwinTheory3/30/2018, 10:00:10 AM2 votes

Any nerf on Shack is a welcome nerf.

GrãñðmãstêrShãçø3/30/2018, 8:30:37 AM1 votes

i agree although then everyone would say they did nothing, so maybe they could lower the ad scaling to i dont Know 50-65%?

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/sxcOuuQY-regarding-the-shaco-nerfs

another post by a Shaco player he makes some valid points go check it out, since im a Shaco main too, we need to send this message to riot or something

The Smite God3/30/2018, 11:19:38 PM1 votes

You know what leave the nerf like it is for patch 8.7 im totally fine with it, still strong, no more ban, no more random player picking him!!!