It's time to stop banning people based on what they say

LZkkKD0Giz·Aug 28, 2015·2 votes·496 views

And instead ban them based on what they do.

If someone told you to kill yourself, it's your prerogative to mute the person and save yourself the "verbal abuse" and "psychological trauma"... (Seriously?) If someone is going 2/46/1 in your game, it's your prerogative to wait 20 minutes and lose LP. Basically, you're f*cked. They aren't! They can keep on feeding for 2 to 3 more days before the system catches on!

Do you see the problem here? The first scenario actually has a solution to it. The second does not... And for some reason unknown, Lyte has his priorities shoved firmly up the first scenario's ass with the Skynet Tribunal™.

21 Comments

redniwediSAug 28, 20154 votes

Why not both?

LZkkKD0GizAug 28, 20152 votes

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Why not both?

Because this isn't North Korea.

redniwediSAug 28, 20152 votes

No, this is a play environment set up by a private company. We agreed to their terms when we installed the game, and after every patch, so we kind of agreed to let them make whatever rules they want.

LZkkKD0GizAug 28, 20151 votes

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No, this is a play environment set up by a private company. We agreed to their terms when we installed the game, and after every patch, so we kind of agreed to let them make whatever rules they want.

Except Lyte specifically stated that he wanted the community to dictate what is and what is not appropriate. It's up to us to grow some thicker skin.

redniwediSAug 28, 20151 votes

That's all fine and well, however there's no reason for insults to be thrown around in game.

Tough and questionable language? Sure, that's more than acceptable, but there's literally no reason to belittle another human being. I'd love for people to have thicker skin, but first I'd like them to learn some decency.

LZkkKD0GizAug 28, 20151 votes

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That's all fine and well, however there's no reason for insults to be thrown around in game.

Tough and questionable language? Sure, that's more than acceptable, but there's literally no reason to belittle another human being. I'd love for people to have thicker skin, but first I'd like them to learn some decency.

Oh, so if someone insults another person, the only logical conclusion we can draw is that the fucker needs a ban. Are you kidding me. It's like sending a person to prison for 10 years because he smoked some pot. (oh wait)

redniwediSAug 28, 20151 votes

Yes, because you not getting to play your precious video game is like losing ten years of your life... Anyone have a "that escalated quickly" meme at the ready?

I never said anything about bans, even if I do think people who can't figure out how to respect a stranger should get some sort of punishment. It's not that hard to be nice, so maybe people who can't figure it out deserve some time off to think about it.

Perhaps Riot is being too harsh on people who don't understand how to properly interact with strangers in a team setting, however I support what they are doing.

Dr PoroAug 28, 20151 votes

Dude you don't lose 10 years of your life in prison. Atleast not in my country. Criminals here are free to play video games as much as they like, get high quality meals 3 times a day and a cell that most students would be jealous of.

redniwediSAug 28, 20151 votes

That statement was said from one NA player to another. Why would your country's prison system have any say on it?

Dr PoroAug 28, 20152 votes

And considering that your thread is getting downvoted, I guess the community doesn't want flamers in every game.

LZkkKD0GizAug 28, 20151 votes

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And considering that your thread is getting downvoted, I guess the community doesn't want flamers in every game.

Yeah, I guess they are more okay with feeders in every game.

PhifeAug 28, 20151 votes

Because Rocks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.

redniwediSAug 28, 20151 votes

Good for you?

PhifeAug 28, 20151 votes

what?

redniwediSAug 28, 20151 votes

Exactly my thinking. How does a phrase designed to help kids ignore bullies have anything to do with what I said?

PhifeAug 28, 20152 votes

problem is this is the internet were everyone is a weeaboo and is borderline suicidal apparently, so if you tell them quinn sucks you get banned for 14 days.

Sakura MirageAug 28, 20151 votes

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problem is this is the internet were everyone is a weeaboo and is borderline suicidal apparently, so if you tell them quinn sucks you get banned for 14 days.

Quinn sucks logs on to main ip banned. :,(

PhifeAug 28, 20151 votes

lmao, basically what happened to my friend.

EnosetcAug 28, 20152 votes

i still laugh at the fact that there doesn't seem to be an "instant feedback system" for intentional feeding

ZmuecatAug 28, 20151 votes

My personal opinion is that insults are fine to be thrown around. It's something I had while growing up in video games and online video games. General smack talk and venting was something the just happened, and I never saw it a bad thing so long as it wasn't something uncalled for and horrible (go kill yourself being a prime example of this). I suppose the difference comes in what I say is acceptable and, say, what you (whoever is reading) is acceptable so it's kind of a grey area if we took this approach.

The reason I was okay with it was because there were always ways to remove it, and I always went with the easiest solution at the lowest level and escalated my response based on the the situation. "Go kill yourself" was always a report. "Uninstall n00b" was a mute depending on how much of a bad mood I was in, or just moving on (if the harassment continued with alternate characters/accounts/loop holes I reported). Even now, the most I report anyone for is negative attitude and that just depends on if they were being a dick all game or if they just said a mean thing and moved on.

Thing is, Riot kinda punishes (most of the time it seems) based on if a person is repeatedly being an asshole, and not just a one time dick move. If you vented one time, chances are you won't have anything done to you, or you may get a warning, but anyone who is just a dick cause "LOLWHYNOT", they are going to be nerfed. We see it time and time again on the boards.

I agree with the OP, people's actions should be met more quickly and harshly than words (especially with the example he gave). But that would mean that trolls, or at least the less clever trolls, will be taken out.