Wow seeing Vayne vs. Kalysta in every single ranked game is great fun!

LZkkKD0Giz·Aug 27, 2015·107 votes·5,343 views

Amazing patch by Riot! It's so refreshing to have League turn back to utter garbage after we had such great balance for a month!

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OperationDEEZ1Aug 27, 201531 votes

Actually the top 3 most picked champions in the game goes Vayne , Thresh , and Jinx in that order. Kalista ranks 42 on OP.gg, And 29 on Champion.gg It does suck that my two most hated champions in the game are 2nd and 3rd. :L

MudintheWaterAug 27, 201547 votes

When I'm first pick I just ban those three. I know chances are I just banned someone's main. And that feels good.

OperationDEEZ1Aug 27, 201547 votes

And asshurt Thresh/Jinx mains are downvoting the two of us. Their salt sustains me.

Raid Boss MordeAug 28, 201517 votes

I hate you. I read, "Their salt sustains me" in Mordekaiser's voice without even realizing it...

KaisadiIIaAug 28, 20153 votes

Same here D:

LadyRenlyAug 28, 20156 votes

13/10 upvotes respectively, take your persecution complex elsewhere pls

OperationDEEZ1Aug 28, 20153 votes

Sorry, initially one dude downvoted both of us, hence the comment.

shacoBOSSAug 28, 20153 votes

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And asshurt Thresh/Jinx mains are downvoting the two of us. Their salt sustains me.

you do realize your the salty one complaining about champions and circlejerking with others who share the opinion, right?

hgjkdlsaf jeldvbAug 28, 20151 votes

I usually go down the win rates and find champs with like 5+ play percent. You could probably run calculations on the raw stats to determine your chances of losing a game to various champs based on their play rate, ban rate, role percent, and win rate. You'd need to know what your team wants to play though, to really get anywhere, otherwise, you can really only make assumptions on your role.

MudintheWaterAug 28, 20152 votes

There was a great thread about sleeper picks and an excel sheet identifying them. What you're describing is probably that + bans.

LankPantsAug 28, 20157 votes

Gotta ban LeeSin too. Doesn't even matter if he's strong, he has so many mains and none of them know how to play anything else.

A Miss FortuneAug 28, 20152 votes

Better buff Lee Sin's extremely high damage ultimate.

But then lets give Kassadin 10 more damage on his ult so he still does more damage with his auto attacks.

Kuroi86Aug 28, 20151 votes

Honestly, the ult buff is going to be near useless. The passive buff though, now that's big.

A Miss FortuneAug 28, 20152 votes

The fact Lee Sin is even buffed is pathetic, while they simultaneously buff Kassadin to make his ultimate still do less damage than his base attack damage until late game.

Kuroi86Aug 28, 20152 votes

Eh, it gives a low elo a slightly better early jungle while high elo really isn't going to give a rip. It sounds more like a placebo buff to get him more play in higher elo.

Kass, well... I get the feeling he's going to be bad until he gets the Sion treatment. His ultimate really is a sink or swim ability.

VexingRavenAug 29, 20151 votes

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Eh, it gives a low elo a slightly better early jungle while high elo really isn't going to give a rip. It sounds more like a placebo buff to get him more play in higher elo.

Kass, well... I get the feeling he's going to be bad until he gets the Sion treatment. His ultimate really is a sink or swim ability.

Lee sin is literally god in low elo, and mid elo too. The pros all agree he's balanced, and he shits on people below pro, so why is he being buffed?

I just don't get how Riot decides who to buff. There are champions who are much worse off than Lee.

LuciferAug 28, 20152 votes

And then you get to fight against the 65% win rate skarner :') A+++++ Job balancing before worlds, Rito. Don't worry, they nerfed Janna.

KrizalidKof99Aug 28, 20151 votes

LeeSin is also picked very often

Lemons22Aug 27, 201529 votes

Wow seeing Vayne ~~vs. Kalysta~~ in every single ranked game is great fun!

Fixed it.

Hard4HamstersAug 28, 201516 votes

Ban Phase: okay they first banned Elise. that's alrright.

"welp gotta ban Skarner because he's OP right now"

Okay they banned Rengar; guess i can't blame them

"Morde can't go through, when he's on my team he's useless, but on their team he goes 23/0."

They banned Riven. Yay, no flaming Riven mains.

"And I'm going to ban Fizz because I hate playing against Fizz top."

Pick Phase: Kalista

"...fuck..."

WooBeeWooAug 28, 20153 votes

or Shyvana or Fiora or Fizz or

DracosKasuAug 28, 20151 votes

Elise is good to counter both Shyvana and Fiora , but people are to scare of her and then get punish by then. When I ban with my teamate, we choose generally those we have problem to manage.

WooBeeWooAug 30, 20151 votes

LOL every time I play fiora and I see an elise I destroy her.

KeevalroyAug 28, 20158 votes

Bring back Cinderhulk and delete Devourer.

AlphariteAug 28, 20152 votes

Yeah, I loved the 3 hour games with Sejuani, Cho'Gath, and Gragas all going full tank! Teamfights were so entertaining when it was the equivalant of 10 people slapping each other with wet pool noodles!

KeevalroyAug 28, 201520 votes

It's better than everyone blowing up in half a second with no counterplay.

It Hertz When IPAug 28, 20158 votes

Strategy game vs Arcade mode.

Goodest GamerAug 27, 20157 votes

knowing that its 5 seasons in and annie is still left untouched gives me hope for the future! how to win mid vs annie:.....................................
Thanks for the great job on the skillset you put on this champ :)

Malix FarwinAug 28, 201511 votes

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knowing that its 5 seasons in and annie is still left untouched gives me hope for the future! how to win mid vs annie:.....................................
Thanks for the great job on the skillset you put on this champ :)

play literally any mage?

CipseAug 28, 20157 votes

I don't know about that. Even my Kog mid (which has a really crappy early game) can win against Annie, or at the very least not die.

ElegantDogeAug 28, 20151 votes

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knowing that its 5 seasons in and annie is still left untouched gives me hope for the future! how to win mid vs annie:.....................................
Thanks for the great job on the skillset you put on this champ :)

What the hell?She's not the most op mid laner here ,her simple kit make it easy to understand how to play against her.

Goodest GamerAug 28, 20151 votes

hello?

hgjkdlsaf jeldvbAug 28, 20156 votes

Garen Riven LeeSin Ahri Janna Thresh Vayne Jinx Yasuo are the two most popular champs for each role. ADC, support, and jungle diversity are crap. Middle is the most diverse lane, followed by top.

Tails DollAug 28, 20155 votes

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are the two most popular champs for each role. ADC, support, and jungle diversity are crap. Middle is the most diverse lane, followed by top.

Well Lee is kinda meh and has a huge player base.

KFC CashierAug 28, 20154 votes

lee sin is not meh. Now all i have to do is get a dumb tank to chase me, Q him kick him into the enemy team as they take the extra damage q in and e hydra. Wham entire enemy team is at 45% health. And the w out.

Tails DollAug 28, 20151 votes

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lee sin is not meh. Now all i have to do is get a dumb tank to chase me, Q him kick him into the enemy team as they take the extra damage q in and e hydra. Wham entire enemy team is at 45% health. And the w out.

Play Lee then, Freelo OP scum. He is not riven/skarner/garen/vayne. They dont need you getting use to their kits to do well (Yes even riven, pick her up, she has a lot of potential, but her skill floor is also really low)

AnidanAug 28, 20151 votes

Every champion's skill floor is low. It's the skill ceiling that matters in a MOBA (at the stage where people know what they're doing, as opposed to new players).

Say what you will about even Azir, his basics aren't that hard to grasp. League does a great job at working with keeping the burden of knowledge low.

Tails DollAug 28, 20151 votes

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Every champion's skill floor is low. It's the skill ceiling that matters in a MOBA (at the stage where people know what they're doing, as opposed to new players).

Say what you will about even Azir, his basics aren't that hard to grasp. League does a great job at working with keeping the burden of knowledge low.

What are you talking about dude. Shaco's skill floor is not low. Syndra, Cass also come to mind.

Mike17032Aug 29, 20151 votes

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What are you talking about dude. Shaco's skill floor is not low. Syndra, Cass also come to mind.

Azir. TF.

Tails DollAug 29, 20152 votes

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Azir. TF.

Lmao yeah, TF , though simple, requires a fairly high skill floor to do decent due to micro magnament.

I am MadlifeAug 28, 20153 votes

Lol you forgot another jungler XD

Nameless VoiceAug 28, 20151 votes

I guess that Lee is so popular that he's both of the two most popular junglers.

Maybe once with a pure tank build, and the other with a more damage/bruiser build?

KrizalidKof99Aug 28, 20151 votes

maybe 3 defense items,2 damage items and a mercury's treads? is that a good buils?

Voluug13Aug 28, 20151 votes

Janna is only good because she counters high engage supports.

Guess which are the highest supports currently? Thresh, Leona, Nautilus.

She dies to poke/sustain supports.

Guess which ones are the most gutted supports? Sona, Soraka, Lulu.

somexotherxguyAug 28, 20151 votes

As a Lulu main i can say lulu is not gutted I pick her every chance i get unless my need teams the disengage from Janna or the Spell shield from morgana. Also Raka is being played a decent amount in challenger/Master at least from the games ive seen recently

CitrusBreadAug 28, 20152 votes

Aatrox Ahri Akali Alistar Anivia Annie Ashe Blitzcrank Heimerdinger DrMundo Gangplank Fiora Caitlyn Cassiopeia Ezreal JarvanIV item 1001 summoner 31 Skarner Tryndamere Thresh Sejuani Riven Vayne Zed Sona Twitch Vladimir Warwick Warwick Riven Sion Skarner Xerath Zyra Zilean Zed Yorick XinZhao Katarina Kennen Khazix KogMaw Leblanc Lux LeeSin are the two most picked champions in the game provided they arent banned etc