Dear junglers, don't casually tax an entire wave from your laners for no reason please.

LeaveNotThyBed··6 votes·1,130 views

I just thought of a match I played on a smurf account a couple months ago.

You see now folks, there was once a man that wanted to play Riven mid. He got matched against a loathsome Swain, and as soon as the loading screen popped up he thought "Oh s**t". He cursed the heavens as he marched to lane, pondering on what he should build and what he should max. Starting Q, he attempted to fight Swain. Swain heavily won the trade and Riven was forced to sit under tower. Upon reaching level 2, Riven leveled up the shield. Using the shield to block Swain's harass, Riven farmed safely. Upon reaching level 3, Riven's jungler, Nunu, decided it was a good idea to come and gank. Riven back pinged Nunu, but Nunu did it anyway. When Nunu ganked, he was at half hp and Riven was at 1/3 hp. Swain was full hp. Swain got first blood on Nunu and Riven was forced to recall. Swain, now with a huge lead due to the denied cs and first blood, bullied the living hell out of Riven. Nunu blamed Riven for his death, and Riven just ignored him. However Nunu later walked by when Riven was still level 4 and used his Trailblazer smite to take all of Riven's creeps! After Riven asked "wtf why would you do that", Nunu said "lol". Left with denied experience and gold, Swain hit level 6 before Riven hit level 5 and dove Riven. Riven died a miserable death. Riven purchased a Hexdrinker to try and stay alive and farm up for late game, but it was all in vain. Riven was too far behind and the almighty crow god had already become ridiculously strong. Diving Riven every time she got back to lane, Swain eventually became way too fed for Riven to even stay near. After feeding 4 kills and then roaming bot and getting 2 kills, then proceeding to die 3 more times and FFing at 20, the match ended. In the post-game chat, the Nunu said "repor riven for inteontinal feedng pls". Seething with rage, the Riven player closed League of Legends and uninstalled. ... Two hours later, he reinstalled the game.

Inb4 "wow u play riven kill urself" For real though, lower elo players (like myself) need to understand how important cs is. When the Nunu smited my minions and made my already hard lane impossible, the game was lost right then and there. I knew I had to carry that match- my teammates were all doing poorly and I was the only one that hadn't died yet. Then this Nunu comes in and delays my level 6 as well as denies me gold, putting me too far behind to even stay near Swain. As a result, I ended up dying 4 times trying to get cs and save my tower. At this point I realized I had to just let go of the tower and farm under my own tower while he roamed elsewhere and killed my teammates. Sure, I didn't play the match perfectly- I should've just let him take the tower earlier and focused on roaming, but the fact is that lane was winnable until the Nunu took an entire wave from me for him doing a gank he shouldn't have done. It probably didn't help that the Swain was gold 2 playing with a friend, meanwhile I had only just hit level 20 on my smurf at the time. I was also worse then than now.

11 Comments

validcookie3 votes

I remember i was duo'd with my friend one time. I was adc and he was support, then our jungler yi came to lane and tried to gank and gave a kill to jinx without even hurting her that much. Then he came back to my lane, not for a gank or anything. He just started taking all my cs, not without dying to jinx a couple times of course. Needless to say, we lost bot lane and that match because i barely got anywhere

LeaveNotThyBed2 votes

That wasn't the reason you lost the match, but I can definitely see it being the reason you lost lane while making the match needlessly difficult. Lower elo people especially need to understand just how important some cs can be.

disregardable2 votes

Dude. 6 minions (not that trailblazer can even kill that many, but I'll allow your exaggeration) is not a reason to die 4+ times to your enemy laner. You lost because you were countered and did not play correctly. The stupid nunu had nothing to do with it.

LeaveNotThyBed2 votes

It's not really a whine thread, it happened ages ago. The Nunu didn't just smite the minions, he smacked a couple and Qd the catty. Took the entire wave. And yes, it makes a big massive difference. Swain hit level 6 before I hit level 5 because of it. On top of that, I was running about 12 runes so he destroyed my hp pretty quickly. Furthermore, I didn't have enough gold to buy both pots and items when I died, and that 100-150 or so gold could have gotten me both the item and pots I needed to stay strong enough to survive in lane and sustain lane to farm. I lost the lane because of Nunu. Feeding FB and then taxing an entire wave for no reason is a major setback in an already difficult lane. However I lost the match because back then I sucked- I still do, but now I'd be able to handle that same situation much better. I should've simply given up the lane and roamed creating an impact elsewhere. Laning was impossible, his E Q alone did almost 1/4 my hp even if I shielded. The point is, CS is extremely important and taking away from your teammates can actually be a major factor in determining who wins or not. If your APC is 300g from Deathcap, let him take that huge wave top lane. That's a powerspike that will happen NOW rather than your powerspike that could happen five minutes later if you get that gold.

Vicvictorw1 votes

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It's not really a whine thread, it happened ages ago. The Nunu didn't just smite the minions, he smacked a couple and Qd the catty. Took the entire wave. And yes, it makes a big difference. Swain hit level 6 before I hit level 4 because of it. On top of that, I was running like 12 runes so he destroyed my hp pretty quickly.

Until you realize whether he kills the minions has no effect on your XP gain, and one wave of minions does not make two levels' difference.

Unless you're complaining that he wavecleared while you weren't in lane; minions that were just going to die under tower anyway, but that's still not a valid complaint.

LeaveNotThyBed3 votes

Doesn't it share the exp? (Lowered exp gain between the two.) Regardless, I was in lane however I wasn't in exp range. I was waiting for the minions to push under my tower so I could farm under tower. Then he strolled right by and took 'em all. lol Also that 4 was a typo, I edit my posts a lot.

Vicvictorw1 votes

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Doesn't it share the exp? (Lowered exp gain between the two.) Regardless, I was in lane however I wasn't in exp range. I was waiting for the minions to push under my tower so I could farm under tower. Then he strolled right by and took 'em all. lol Also that 4 was a typo, I edit my posts a lot.

Lowered XP as opposed to a lone champ in lane, but whether he kills or or you kill it would not make an XP difference.

You're still talking two levels' difference if he hit 6 while you were still 4.

Ixoziel2 votes

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Dude. 6 minions (not that trailblazer can even kill that many, but I'll allow your exaggeration) is not a reason to die 4+ times to your enemy laner. You lost because you were countered and did not play correctly. The stupid nunu had nothing to do with it.

The nunu feeding swain FB had nothing to do with it? That's a bit ridiculous. Stealing the creeps just made it worse.

Ixoziel2 votes

I've had junglers like this in plat games, doesn't get any better. We had a j4 that farmed all game. Absolutely 0 ganks. He didn't even TRY to gank, and all lanes were pushed up, so that couldn't have been an excuse.

Another game I'm mid, and nunu (these players seem to be very greedy) pings me to go to dragon. Well, there's a wave of 12 creeps. So I head to dragon, Nunu isn't there. He runs mid and blasting smites the creep wave. After he told me to go to dragon. I lost all will to win after that. When your jungler actually makes your lane harder to win, it's really pathetic.

LeaveNotThyBed1 votes

Agreed. It's ridiculous when a jungler, whom is supposed to help out the team, only screws the lane up. I've intentionally set up a lane to freeze toward my side so that I can walk to lane while losing less creeps than the enemy after tower diving an enemy for first blood before, only to have my jungler come in and push the wave, taking over 15 cs from me and conveniently shoving the minions toward the enemy's tower just as my enemy laner walked back to lane. Was a level down from the enemy top throughout all of laning phase as a result, and my first blood lead was wasted.

Renaille1 votes

Riven died a miserable death.

I love happy endings.

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