So a little bit of reflection about damage because its relevant again

https://youtu.be/we5LawDUcCM?t=2m42s LB lv5 from 3/4 hp completely one shots MF, no ult needed

https://youtu.be/0QN-MFyA2dQ?t=33s Twitch with tiamat 3 shots 4 enemies, considering if the other 2 enemy champs where there it would have also killed them. I remember 2 shotting an entire enemy death bush as Tiamat Twitch, and fondly remember how frustrating it was going a week without a few penta kills as Tiamat twitch before he got nerfed (rip my bae) and prevented from using Tiamat.

https://youtu.be/T1_X-vn4BYs?t=31s When nidalee was zoe but much much worse, anyone who played season 1 LoL remembers how large that hitbox was and how much damage it did. For those who dont know, nid's spear used to base its AP ratio and damage off how far nid was from the spear, not from its thrown origin, thus making spears doing a rediculous amount of damage without her ever worrying about danger. oh and half the time you thought you dodged it because the hitbox was like 3x the size of the visual.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56_TdWykLUc 5/6/7 Rammus completely 1v1ing a 15/6 jinx that has 2 levels on him, the jinx is stupid enough to keep autoing but he was also stupid in trying to run away. Also season 1 veterans cant forget Rammus W was nerfed because he could infinitely stay in it with a little bit of CDR which made towers more worthless than people think of them today. Oh but tanks do too much damage in todays meta game right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUQ_-F0V-70 Lets not forget the item worse than PtA, Electrocute, and Dark Harvest put together. It made for great one shot comps but we can all agree this needed to be removed. Sadly it was replaced by increased damage on every ap champion so a neutral gain there :/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRCSIo6bEhY This was before shunpo 15% flat damage reduction was removed, and he one shot her with an auto...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9BUc6gk_Ws Poppy oneshots adc with just Q, I remember oneshotting anivia's through her passive with just E,then Q as poppy (the only issue here was actually getting to lich bane as poppy) This was before the AP nerfs, and then poppy became the only champ in the game who had magic crits (her Q) and that allowed for the monstrosity (and barely known) static shiv/IE/ magic crit build that one shot people.

At this point im tired of looking for more videos and want to go off memory, but anyone else forgetting old Kassadin, who rift ran and was unstoppable? Anyone forgetting OG ryze and his unstoppable combo that made current fiddlesticks crows look underpowered? My mind hurts at this point because Ive spent way too much time looking at past armor and MR values, ap/ad ratios, and base damages that i sadly feel like will be undervalued and ignored.

I can go on, I can finds lists more of videos of oneshots, and huge damage pre new masteries. I can remember when champions like Nidalee and Lee sin were considered broken because too much power creep had made them overloaded, Jayce and Elise followed suit there are probably much more but my brain is tired.

Are we forgetting or dont know the day silence was taken from LB and Talon to give actually counterplay because at that point LB and Talon could one shot squishy without them being able to react?

I can also find videos of tanks being unkillable under towers.

https://youtu.be/aeU2b9s-ZVw?t=3m21s champion spotlight of rammus. caitlyn does more damage to rammus then the turret, he tanks 6 tower shots with little to no effect from them. Watch when cait damages him, vs when he tanks tower shots, its a huge difference in damage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THhvvHVyggM Okay this one is sort of a joke, but Zhonyas shen vs BC ashe and she still cant kill him partly because of good micro play.

Anyone who played season 1 remembers the days where tanks were "unkillable", if you didnt ban the major 6 tanks (back when we had 3 bans per side) in ranked you were trolling and everyone reported you for allowing that to happen, unless you were blue side and you were looking to take one of the tanks. They were cosidered so good we would rather face the one shot annie tibbers than face a tank? The fact we were so afraid of being 1v5'ed forced to blow all our ults just to kill one target and letting the enemy team clean us up afterwards that we were willing to ban all tanks and would rather try to outplay the point and click stuns than try to kill a kaiju? Most of you probably wont remember because that was season 1.

You know who didn't do any damage? Supports. I remember 1v1ing a Xin as mordekaiser, having only 100 hp left and out dueling a soraka who had her insta silence/damage back then. (Sorry no video because my compy back then blew and there is no way I could have recorded it.) But remember when all they did was buy wards? A support that did any attacking was considered troll because of how little they did and their focus was only to survive and support the entire team? Now we see bard who can 1v1 adc early game because, dont worry, his late game isnt that great and still fulfills the support idea he sits back and peels. Yet at the same time just a few months after my experience with morde vs soraka we had a meta game where ahri was full countered by mid soraka because her Q and E were so oppressive in lane soraka squashed any and all hope for most mages mid to farm without being wittled away by a true damage Q (it wasnt true damage but the MR shred was so huge after a few hits from her Q it was basically true damage early game)

Whats my point? Well I actually agree damage is a bit too high now, but it doesn't keep me from remembering that damage has been high since the conception of league. Originally the idea was to keep nerfing until the rest fit in instead of buffing until all champions fit in. This helped with power creep but it seems people haven't learned the lessons of the past. CertainlyT gets a lot of flack from creating yasuo and Zoe but the only thing he should get flack for is not having learned from old champion design that was bad. He should have learned from Nidalee that having a Q that one shots is bad (Zoe) and like nid, jayce, elise, lee sin that overloading a champion without balancing their damage is bad (yasuo). I m only using those two CertainlyT champs as examples because they get the most hate. The ideas are great for them both but a bit too much power is given.

MAYBE AND I STRESS MAYBE (So take this entire paragraph with a grain of salt or, maybe, even better yet, ignore it) the better idea is instead of buffing crit adc, taking a look at everyone else and slowing out their curves too, maybe emphasizing ratio's over base damages for everyone including supports. Maybe the problem isn't keystones because from my research it seems very power neutral from the original Runes and Masteries. Maybe im just a crazy fool who loves this game and thinks the rest of the community is a bit too exaggerative (idk if its a word or not im using it) when we talk about the current season vs old seasons. Maybe the fact ADC aren't spiking at two items for the most part is a good thing and interestingly enough keeping that damage creep down. Maybe toning down the rest of league instead to make crit adc able to lane in their post crit item nerf form is a good idea. Maybe the fact we do so much damage in lane now is the fact as a whole we got better at the game and know how to poke enemies down more consistently, and the keystones while a power neutral move frontloaded damage onto a lot of champions who used to be over time damage. MAYBE just MAYBE we all (myself included) are just trying to find the best way to enjoy the game and wish we could have it our own way instead of considering that not everyone can be happy and the balance team is trying to do their best at making everyone happy.

TL:Didnt Read watch or consider. The game has always had really high numbers. There have always been over tuned champions. I have given a few videos to help understand this concept. I feel like the community and Balance team can learn from the past and this needs to happen.

THERE I HAVE GIVEN MY THOUGHTS. Im done, im tired of thinking and going to play some League, and so I can come back in a few hours to see how ignorant and stupid I am, and see all my downvotes because im wrong. Have fun :D https://gifer.com/en/Xvsf