Meddler mentioned recently they will take a look at Gragas's E hitbox and flash interaction, possibly removing that function.
Effective or not with other champs 
, it would be too confusing and unfair if a champ can flash during a dash and some others can't.
Kinda yes but with Gragas thing is complicated because Shen has no powerful followup ability, he just taunts and deals damage nothing more. Gragas on the other hand apart from dealing damage and applying CC reliably makes picks by knocking vital target to his team while disrupting everyone that could help said target effectively making them autolose every teamfight just by Gragas not having Flash on cooldown. They can win in that situation when Gragas somehow fucks up that combo which happens rarely.
I don't want E Flash interaction gone because of consistency with similar abilities, skillcap but as long as Gragas can remove someone from game for like 1.2 second without any time to react, ability to dodge then it's doomed to be unbalanceable and needs to go. Solution to it may be removing hard CC on E and replacing it with slow as it gives target opportunity to slightly change direction of displacement or flash/dash out of it. Fatty may still predict that and throw cask accordingly or he can buffer his R during E (it's not so reliable but might take opponent by surprise).
Yea because different champs have the same kits /s
If a flash combo is broken on one champ then take it away from that problem champ. No need to nerf everyone else that is not broken with their flash combos.
I do agree that some other champs could use the same treatment but saying "OMG REMOVE ALL OTHER CHAMP FLASH INTERACTION PLOS" is kind of dumb, as most of them don't have the faceroll "press every other button after you dashed in" combo that gragas has
you can dodge fizz q, but you cant dodge yasuo e
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No OnlyGragasOnlyGG . your biased opinion is incorrect , gragas will have the nerfs he deserves , end of the story . Shen and Vi are not broken obnoxious champs like Gragas , so thats why they are allowed to keep that mechanic .
Comparing one of the most overloaded junglers to Vi and Shen lol. And Gragas' hitbox is just dumb.
unfair
This is the real reason why you made this post. You're a gragas main. I understand how you feel, but removing it from everyone else because it's unfair that gragas can't do it isn't an actual reason to do it.
agree, such interactions need to be consistent, either all get it or non(which i'd prefer).
correct me if im wrong, but ornn, urgot, and rakan cant flash during dash. Im sure there is more.
I'm just tired to see Gragas overshine everybody else because of how dumb his hitbox are...
I think the main reason behind this it's the Gragas Overabuse in Korea LCS ... he was a pick or ban, omnipresent and with always good result.
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See the reason why they would be changing these things is to try and remove Gragas's reliable engage patterns that make him incredibly strong and hopefully start pushing him away from full tank and towards an AP-brusier build. Because of his reliable nature, people go full tank to abuse it. Also, these two things alone have pushed Gragas into one of the most powerful junglers in pro for basically forever. Vi and Shen and by extension many other champions are not breaking the game and being pick or ban in pro.
There had better be massive compensation buffs for Shen, hes had his plethora of nerfs aplenty.
Umm. Vi can't flash during dash. She can flash while charging it, not when it is cast to extend the range last i checked. Even if you can, nobody does it because the first option works just as well if not better.
I think Shen and Gragas are the only flash+dash abusers we have.
They should remove it from all champions. Flash should be used first to get in range if you're not in range. The whole miss-your-skill-intentionally-first and then for some god-knows-spaghetti reason you can flash the hitbox to a new location is obnoxious and obviously a bug.
Flash should be disabled during other dashes and those other dashes should be finished before Flash is enabled; or using Flash should interrupt the other abilities.
I mean, my main issue with Gragas in particular is the hitbox. As someone who mains Thresh and is very good at Flaying enemy gap closers (e.g. Xin, Vi, Leona and Kayn) when they jump on me or my carry: Gragas will apply his stun before he's even in range of Flay. The fact he can also use the above bug is just extra icing on the shit-sandwich.
Let's not make Shen any shittier
Removing his e-flash would literally push him into unviability unless they they give him a better tank steroid.
Not only does tank grag rely on e-flash for quick initiations, the mystical AP gragas would lose a significant amount of reliable damage.
You can argue that Camille's is only single target, but she has a guaranteed ult-hit AND true damage out the ass. You could argue that Shen's is really small (which it is, they should really enlarge it) but his ult is one of the strongest abilities in the game and even as a tank he can bully most lanes early due to his ridiculous q damage.
I'm all for narrowing his e hitbox because it irritates me even when I play him, but they really shouldn't touch the synergy between his e and flash.
I agree
No because when gragas goes full ap and he uses that combo there is no counterplay at all, compared to those too you can survive maybe effy with vi but shen wtf he is like one of the weakest champs.
