Meddler as an adc main i'd really appreciate doing something about ''support'' brand

Rivuo·Jan 21, 2017·10 votes·653 views

I dont want to be rude but this malzahar and brand supporting while soloing anything with a frost fang is a bit over whelming.

I'm a fan of bringing any champ bot lane im all for it. But when its over whelming it's kind of frustrating that you cant take a single immobile adc bot if its brand supp. His skills kind of resemble lux's E in which it's not easy to dodge if you're in 600 range and kinda depends on Brand to miss his W and not really to dodge it if you're immobile.

I'm just being honest man this shit sucks.

15 Comments

CrettJan 21, 20174 votes

supp brand, to be frank, upsets the bot lane dynamic in a frustrating way rather than a cool way

alfavhunterJan 21, 20171 votes

"stand behind braum"

RavenhaleJan 21, 20171 votes

We miss the Aura from Aegis. Was always a good item to pick up if you were getting hammered by an AP support.

MatthewRT2Jan 21, 20171 votes

brand eruption is really easy to dodge and costs a fair amount of mana. lux e can burst as soon as it lands where she wants it

dunder killJan 21, 20171 votes

: item 3303 item 2049 item 1026 item 3020

100 to 0s you. Feels bad man

TupacoJan 21, 20171 votes

Can us support mains have something fun? I mean I main him and Malazhar. Other lanes have shit like jayce, Jihn, Kat, we got... Janna Zyra Nami as our top supports brand isn't even near as strong ATM http://champion.gg/statistics/#?sortBy=general.overallPosition&order=ascend&roleSort=Support Seriously please don't ruin what little we have.

RexSaurJan 21, 20171 votes

Brand, Zyra and Malz "supp" needs to go.

LiofaJan 21, 20171 votes

Brand support has never been weaker, redemption and locket runs absolute counter to Brand support's niche, AoE damage. Not to mention the fact that Brand is objectively inferior to Zyra, who gets countered by support MF, and is hard countered by Karma, possibly the strongest support in solo Q period. I'm just being honest, get better at the game before you complain about champion balancing.

Malz's degeneration into support hood rests solely on repetoir and his refusal to admit what he did to Malz during the mage update was a travesty. If he had any dignity he'd resign. You'll never see Malz going mid as his primary role again unless they give his voidlings, which represents more than half his early game damage, any kind of durability.

NotCounterJan 21, 20171 votes

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Brand support has never been weaker, redemption and locket runs absolute counter to Brand support's niche, AoE damage. Not to mention the fact that Brand is objectively inferior to Zyra, who gets countered by support MF, and is hard countered by Karma, possibly the strongest support in solo Q period. I'm just being honest, get better at the game before you complain about champion balancing.

Malz's degeneration into support hood rests solely on repetoir and his refusal to admit what he did to Malz during the mage update was a travesty. If he had any dignity he'd resign. You'll never see Malz going mid as his primary role again unless they give his voidlings, which represents more than half his early game damage, any kind of durability.

i disagree that zyra "counters" brand. both have strengths, zyra is better at being an oppressive poke support but brand will come out on top as far as dealing aoe damage in a teamfight. there is also no potential of getting wrecked by things like stupid plant AI or things that instakill them like singed poison

rtbf221651412Jan 21, 20171 votes

Brand, maybe. Malzahar? What?

CalabokJan 21, 20171 votes

Whiners be whinin' 'bout nuthin'

JefftiffyJan 21, 20171 votes

The problem I see right now isn't brand. He just excels in the meta. He does good burst and has tank melting capability. I think the rework giving even higher % hps while not nerfing is base values was a bad idea, but he doesn't see any play if the enemy team is squishy or has the brains not to hug each other.

Now, do I think his mechanic of E Q W is healthy. No I don't. It has never been healthy, but at the same time without it he does nothing. Essentially with brand if you can dodge his Q you can dodge his W and if you dodge everything but his E and don't get killed by stupidity when he ults then he instantly dies to anyone who goes in on him.

TyrekGoldenspearJan 21, 20171 votes

His bases were nerfed in the rework though.

Getting his full combo and the passive explosion to proc is the only way he can reach his prerework damage.

AhristocatsJan 21, 20171 votes

Zyra

zaire90Jan 22, 20171 votes

*brand in general i hated him since the rework (never saw him before that) and was kinda glad when he left mid to go down to bot. But the few times i do see him bot or mid that game isnt fun